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Corporal Kielbasa

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: tomk]
#3824635 - 02/23/05 09:07 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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I seen lots of bears in the wild. Its not such a big deal. The mind is our public enemy # 1 is our minds.
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tomk
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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: MOTH]
#3824639 - 02/23/05 09:07 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's not just during the bloody part, during the part you are fertile, the hormones could attract animals with no blood.
We don't want you to be completely isolated cause then you would never be here!
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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: beejay]
#3824644 - 02/23/05 09:08 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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that's a horrible argument. "people die in car crashes all the time". you KNOW that is comparing apples to oranges. you know it's a bad idea, other wise you wouldn't have posted this. but if you really believe it's no more dangerous than driving a car, then go ahead, and evolution will phase you out if you can't fend for youself.
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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: TYL3R]
#3824658 - 02/23/05 09:10 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think you should at least try for a few days Elly. If nothing else you could work up to longer periods of time from just an overnight stay.
When I graduate college I plan to backpack into the most remote wilderness I can find and then set up a permanent type dwelling. But I love the outdoors and I don't mind being alone.
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Corporal Kielbasa

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: tomk]
#3824661 - 02/23/05 09:10 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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So how did the native peoples go about this? I dont think the south has wolves eather. If she is in her moon time she should worry more about male humans then an animal brother or sister.
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tomk
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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: Amethyst_Acid]
#3824687 - 02/23/05 09:14 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Uh I bet more backpacking people live a long time then car people.
Further, the backpackers enjoy the ride a lot more. I half think that the problem with the USA is that we have no ritual like many cultures do where the young are sent off tripping into the woods until they find their way back a long time later.
I think you would have to approach the right way, and be sure to have people you know close enough to help you if you needed it. But think about it, it's not everyone you want to be isolated from, it's only most people, you could go away with a small group of genuine friends, and feel isolated and still have good people you love around! That would be a lot safer and probably a lot more rewarding, especially if they were also inward pointed and valued time alone, staying within, say, whitle range but doing their own thing and meeting to talk about it and share chores (and keep each other warm (not sexually) at night). It's a lot easier to survive in a group, and you could still cut off everything distracting and superfical.
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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: Amethyst_Acid]
#3824689 - 02/23/05 09:14 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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hmmmm the comparison was just made to illustrate the point that just cause there are bad casses associated with an activity doesnt mean that the activity is destined for certain doom. Anyway, I do know more people that have been seriously injured in car accidents than backpacking trips.
In any case if Ellemy does the research and prepares properly, she will be fine. Im going to go get phased out by evolution now.
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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: Amethyst_Acid]
#3824698 - 02/23/05 09:15 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Evolution ?
How do you think the human race got to where it is today ?
By surviving in the wilderness.
The chance of her being killed, or harmed is very slim.
Evolution ? That is a horrible argument.
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Corporal Kielbasa

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: tomk]
#3824708 - 02/23/05 09:17 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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What you are talking about is called a vision quest, done without the aid of halucinogens. Sweat lodges and no food for three days, prayer and reflection.
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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: Amethyst_Acid]
#3824714 - 02/23/05 09:19 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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you havnt spent much time in the wilderness have you?
sure there are dangers from animals, hwoever the dangers are fairly limited. bears are REALLY predictable in many ways. grizzleys are nasty fucks, so its basically carry some form of defense. the balck bears here often the best defence is a peice of clothing or even a leafy branch. same with cougars, wolves etc...mammals (except humans) are usually pretty predictable (i am also not talkign about takign psychedelics while doign so, thats nto my call).
in texas she may run into other dangerous things liek snakes and that, but they too are very safe. very little danger unless your being stupid.
i would agree. travelling at 70ish mph down a highway in a 2000 pound peice of machinery with hundreds of others doing the same, often having some coming right at you only feet away, is FAR more dangerous than walkign on a trail and seting up a tent.
while hiking the real dangers are becoming too complacent. its often little shit like tripping on a root, or not filtering your water and things like that that are going to cause far more trouble than a bear would.
well thats my experience here in bc anyway.
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Corporal Kielbasa

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: TYL3R]
#3824718 - 02/23/05 09:19 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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agreed, the thing that would kill some one is human error, the elements, sickness, lacerations, falls, food, and water.
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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: Amethyst_Acid]
#3824720 - 02/23/05 09:20 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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omg this is ridiculous, kids.
"How do you think the human race got to where it is today ?
By surviving in the wilderness."
COME ON, are you serious???? NOT by surviving in the wilderness, in isolation, on high doses of psychedelics.
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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
#3824721 - 02/23/05 09:20 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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there are many versions of that type of cerimony from group to group though. I do believe that there are versions that envolve hallucinagens.
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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: beejay]
#3824737 - 02/23/05 09:23 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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who said anything about high doses of hallucinagens?
I already said she should do it without the drugs first and even after that, there is a difference between a gram or two of mushrooms and downing five grams.
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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: beejay]
#3824739 - 02/23/05 09:23 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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I agree, I have mostly studied the non psychedelic induced ones, beeing that I beleave true knowledge doesnt need to be sourced threw chemical means.
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Amethyst_Acid
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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: beejay]
#3824742 - 02/23/05 09:23 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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ok i'm done with this post.....
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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
#3824745 - 02/23/05 09:24 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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I agree with you one hundred percent.
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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: Amethyst_Acid]
#3824747 - 02/23/05 09:24 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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bye now, come back soon. Ya hear.
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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: MOTH]
#3824754 - 02/23/05 09:26 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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read the dharma bums by kerouac.
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Corporal Kielbasa

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: beejay]
#3824755 - 02/23/05 09:26 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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I am going to say it again, she should go out for a single solo night without food, so she can aclimate a bit to the solitude.
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