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OfflineTheProdigy
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Dehydrator question
    #3822141 - 02/23/05 02:27 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

Does the heating mechanism in dehydrators usually get hot enough to start breaking up the psilocybin? I've heard they just get warm and not hot. If so, how do you recognize the heating mechanism in a dehydrator in order to disable it?


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Re: Dehydrator question [Re: TheProdigy]
    #3822174 - 02/23/05 02:39 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

You'll see it, theres nothing in there but the heat element and sometimes a fan too. You'll spot it easy then clip the wires going to it. The heat wont break down the psilicybin. Drying will break down psilocin but that will happen with or without heat. Heat from a dehydrator wont degrade potency any more then drying any other way.


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Re: Dehydrator question [Re: TheProdigy]
    #3822177 - 02/23/05 02:40 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

I have an excalibure dehydrator. You can adjust the heat. I use the 85 degree setting, as anything over 100 degres would be bad.


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Re: Dehydrator question [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3822203 - 02/23/05 02:48 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

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scatmanrav said:
Heat from a dehydrator wont degrade potency any more then drying any other way.




I beg to differ.

Over 100 degree heat effects potency in a bad way... possibly making bunk shrooms ><


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Re: Dehydrator question [Re: Sko]
    #3823086 - 02/23/05 05:51 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

I beg to differ as well. Please show me proof on psilocybin breaking down at 100 degrees.


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Re: Dehydrator question [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3823101 - 02/23/05 05:54 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

Forget the dehydrator eat those babies raw!!!!


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Re: Dehydrator question [Re: TheProdigy]
    #3823104 - 02/23/05 05:55 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

I just bought myself a dehydrator for this specific purpose, and here is my take on it:

I decided to go with the dehydrator so I wouldn't have to deal with desiccant.

After several hours in the dehydrator they were MOSTLY dry, but still not cracker dry in the center of the thicker pieces.

So I ended up having to use fuckin' desiccant anyway.

Save your money and just use a damn fan, then desiccant... cuz if you buy a dehydrator you may end up having to use desiccant after anyway... which negates the whole fuckin' purpose. :grumble:


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Re: Dehydrator question [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3823112 - 02/23/05 05:56 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

couldn't you have just left them in the dehydrator a bit longer?


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Re: Dehydrator question [Re: TODAY]
    #3823147 - 02/23/05 06:04 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

Well I actually accidentally left in it all night long while I was sleeping... and they STILL were not cracker dry.

I guess I could have left them in longer still, but I'm impatient and still slightly concerned with the heat, since it's such a controversial issue and my dehydrator rides pretty close to the most commonly recommended cut off line. (lowest setting is 95 degrees.)


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Re: Dehydrator question [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3823176 - 02/23/05 06:08 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

What % potency loss do they get from drying?  I thought no heat would give them a 0% potency loss??? :confused:


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Re: Dehydrator question [Re: TheProdigy]
    #3823199 - 02/23/05 06:13 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

Dont worry, no heat = no loss, or only trace amounts are lost.


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Re: Dehydrator question [Re: Sko]
    #3823229 - 02/23/05 06:18 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

Yeah I didn't think so. Just threw me off when that one guy said that in drying they will lose potency.


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Re: Dehydrator question [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3823233 - 02/23/05 06:18 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

Big shrooms, use razor blade to split or 1/4 stems lengthwise. They dry "cracker; dry that way. Have used American Harvest Dehydrator for years. :thumbup:

Big huge batches. Mount SQC fan on lid of 5 gallon plastic bucket. Drill a 15/20 .......1/4 inch holes around base of bucket. Use porious cloth, suspend fruits in cloth - inside bucket - add lid - turn on fan & run overnight - or longer, until fruits are like leather like.

Then -- move to dehydrator & run overnight at about 97F setting. :thumbup: :grin:


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Re: Dehydrator question [Re: Sko]
    #3823235 - 02/23/05 06:18 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

I used this dehydrator for a long while. No loss.



Note if i used 1 rack the contents would be dry in 48 hours.

Loaded like you see it, it would take 4 days to dry to cracker dry.

A note: the breakdown point is 180F. 90 to 100f does not hurt them.


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Re: Dehydrator question [Re: TheProdigy]
    #3823282 - 02/23/05 06:26 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

IME, the BEST way to fly, is to eat the shrooms fresh with a whopper and a coke. I've used many methods to dry my shrooms, and have found no noticeable trip difference after having used either desiccant, the oven method, or my dehydrator. Depending on how "meaty" your shrooms are, will denote how long it takes to dry them. My PF shrooms are really hollow, so they dry out in about 12 hours, while my KOH Supers are thick and take almost 24. Think about this. The relative air temperature OFTEN exceeds 100 degrees near the equator where a lot of strains grow naturally. The death temputarture for Psylocin/psylocibin is probally higher than what normal earth tempuratres reach. This is of course, unresearched and based on common sense, and my personal experience with dehydrators.

IMHO, the dehydrator is a fine way to dry your shrooms, and it saves a lot of time and hassle with spilling desiccant all over. Like Scat, I wouldn't mind seeing some numbers before I throw away my dehydrator.

By the way, the element does get rather hot, so watch your hands (My thumb can attest to this.) If you can't buy a dehydrator with an adjustable temperature setting, make sure the operating temperature isn't above 100 and you should be fine. Unless your O.T. is much higher than 100, don't bother with disabling the element.


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Re: Dehydrator question [Re: Cyber]
    #3823303 - 02/23/05 06:32 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

I use a dehydrator all the time. There is no potency loss. Believe whatever you like though.

Psilocybin is a tough chemical. It will withstand heat pretty well. Psilocin however breaks down readily and quickly. When you dry mushrooms you DO lose potency. With or without heat. If you dont think so then you've never eaten a fresh dosage of mushrooms. I used a fan and desiccant before. Its hype. Put them on the dehydrator and viola.


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Re: Dehydrator question [Re: agar]
    #3823309 - 02/23/05 06:34 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

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agar said:
Big shrooms, use razor blade to split or 1/4 stems lengthwise. They dry "cracker; dry that way. Have used American Harvest Dehydrator for years. :thumbup:




Me too bro,

I have several American Harvest Snackmaster dehydrators.

Use the lowest setting...let them get cracker dry...no potency loss noticed.

I usually find the dehydrators in Thrift stores(2nd hand stores) for very little $$$$...and most haven't been used.


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