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Amazon Shop for: ½ Pint Jars, Pressure Cooker, Rye Grain, Vermiculite

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OfflineFINITE1
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Creating cakes ahead of time?
    #3821774 - 02/23/05 12:54 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Spores will be arriving any day now and I was wondering if it would be safe to go ahead and get the cakes prepared. They will be sitting for a few days in the fridge prior to inoculating. I'm assuming it would be ok and pretty much no different from waiting 5 hours for the jars to cool and then inoculating. Been trying to think of a way to store the jars in the fridge within a sterile environment. Was thinking about using a small styrofoam cooler which will be used for incubation. Anyways, just don't want to have to much going on when the spores arrive and feel it would be best if the cakes were ready for inoculation.....One more thing, would it be unwise to inoculate if the cakes were cold and just out of the fridge? Thanks.


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Re: Creating cakes ahead of time? [Re: FINITE1]
    #3821793 - 02/23/05 01:00 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

ure safe to make them and wait a wile...
the only real issue is that ure substrate will dry out over time
but that would take a long time...
u dont realy need a sterile enviroment for incubating if u seal your jars. i have mine enclosed in a sandwich baggie and shelved in a dusty closet... no probs so far...

im not sure about cold having an effect... but it cant hurt to put your jars in the incubator for a few hours before innoculating.


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Re: Creating cakes ahead of time? [Re: FINITE1]
    #3821799 - 02/23/05 01:01 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

i usually prepare my rye quarts a couple days ahead of time, and i've never had one contam.  i just put them back in the box and stickem in my rubbermaid till ready to innoc.  i don't see any probs doing this with pf cakes either... GL bro :stoned:


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Re: Creating cakes ahead of time? [Re: NeedMoreSleep]
    #3821809 - 02/23/05 01:03 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

The safest way of keeping your jars sterile is to just leave them in the pressure cooker until inoculation


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Re: Creating cakes ahead of time? [Re: GlassOnion]
    #3821878 - 02/23/05 01:19 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

when i first started i used to do that all the time. it actually helped me in the long run because it started growing green mold and it let me know i needed to increase my sterilization time. never had a contamination problem since.


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Re: Creating cakes ahead of time? [Re: GlassOnion]
    #3821936 - 02/23/05 01:34 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Unfortunately my PC is far to small to fit all the jars. Doing 4 at a time. Its gonna suck but untill I can afford a nice big pressure canner its all I got. Thanks for the replies guys.


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Re: Creating cakes ahead of time? [Re: FINITE1]
    #3821955 - 02/23/05 01:38 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I have a small pressure cooker as well, and I can do four at a time, just takes 3-4 hours to sterilize all the jars instead of 1 hour, so it seems to make sense to sterilize ahead of time then wait...

So once I get my pint jars I will begin sterilizing...

*Also*

If your using 1/2 pint jars, its ok to stack them in your pressure cooker, as long as you have foil on them to prevent moisture getting in.


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Re: Creating cakes ahead of time? [Re: FINITE1]
    #3822205 - 02/23/05 02:49 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Going to be using tap water for at least the first 4 jars. Decided that I should boil the tap water before using it in the mix. Any thoughts on wether or not boiling the water is ok? I myself cant think of why it wouldnt be ok. Just want to make sure the water is sterile, well at least free of any additives that the "water people" are using to keep it "clean". Thanks again.


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Re: Creating cakes ahead of time? [Re: FINITE1]
    #3822236 - 02/23/05 02:54 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

there shouldn't be any probs w/ boiling ur water, however i doubt you'll really need to.  i'd suggest maybe only boiling water for half of your jars, then you'll find out if you really need to do this in the future or not... my guess would be not... GL bro :stoned:


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Re: Creating cakes ahead of time? [Re: NeedMoreSleep]
    #3822400 - 02/23/05 03:20 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I'm about to fill the first 4 jars with the mix and was wondering if anyone would suggest the Invitro TEK (think thats what its called)? Where you place a layer of VERM at the bottom of the jar before filling with mix and then the top layer of VERM.

EDIT: Sorry its the Invitro Double End Casing TEK. Also there are like freaking dead worm bodies and shit in the VERM is this normal?


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I was there at the last concert in Chicago, Soldier Field actually. It was my first concert experience and the best time I have ever had. Little did I know it would be the last time I would see them play.


Edited by FINITE1 (02/23/05 03:27 PM)


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Re: Creating cakes ahead of time? [Re: FINITE1]
    #3822529 - 02/23/05 03:47 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

lol, just looks like it, it all verms, no dead worms


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