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OfflineLengthyFellow
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Air Exchange in a Martha?
    #3820428 - 02/23/05 01:53 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Someone i know recently set up a martha, humidified w/ perlite at the bottom. How should he set up for some air exchange? He was thinking about just making a polyfill filter at the top and another at the side/bottom. Would the weight of the co2 cause it to flow out of the bottom filter, thus sucking in filtered air? Or does he need some kind of fan (he has those little computer fans) in order to pull/push air in?


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Re: Air Exchange in a Martha? [Re: LengthyFellow]
    #3820465 - 02/23/05 02:00 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i have a fan in my martha to "MIX" the air.... not completly suck it out....if he had a fan elevated in his martha to mix the air up and make it not stagnant, than your on the right path.. a fresh circulation of oxygen is what the mushies want....


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Re: Air Exchange in a Martha? [Re: sillysimon]
    #3820490 - 02/23/05 02:06 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i mean think about it. you want to simulate nature as closly as possible to a certain extent.. think, the mushies in the wild have constant air blowing around them making them thrive with life.


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Re: Air Exchange in a Martha? [Re: sillysimon]
    #3820499 - 02/23/05 02:08 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i understand...but if the air is just moving around inside, how would this eliminate co2? it would seem to me that you would want the co2 to settle at the bottom so it is easier to get rid of it...by aggravating the air wouldnt you be mixing the excess co2 with the surrounding air?


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Re: Air Exchange in a Martha? [Re: LengthyFellow]
    #3820507 - 02/23/05 02:09 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

exactly


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Re: Air Exchange in a Martha? [Re: sillysimon]
    #3820517 - 02/23/05 02:11 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

how big is his set up ... how much is he fuiting inside


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Re: Air Exchange in a Martha? [Re: sillysimon]
    #3820533 - 02/23/05 02:15 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

unless you are fruiting a shit load in a packed tight area... you shold not worry.. i read that mycologist uste a mixing process in there work too.. as long a a circulation of air is in their it will keep the co2 from settling, therfore keeping it from being a problem.... but this is just an opinon do what you will


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Re: Air Exchange in a Martha? [Re: sillysimon]
    #3820547 - 02/23/05 02:20 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

approx 6 sq ft. of casings in a 3.5 ft tall x 3 ft wide by 2 ft. deep chamber


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Re: Air Exchange in a Martha? [Re: LengthyFellow]
    #3820555 - 02/23/05 02:22 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

dude.. mixing is fine.. i.ve done it with great results.. big bulky fresh flushes.....gl


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Re: Air Exchange in a Martha? [Re: sillysimon]
    #3820556 - 02/23/05 02:22 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

sillysimon said:
as long a a circulation of air is in their it will keep the co2 from settling, therfore keeping it from being a problem...




ok this makes sense...as long as thats not too much area for that size tererrium


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Re: Air Exchange in a Martha? [Re: sillysimon]
    #3820560 - 02/23/05 02:23 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

my fan is on a timer to go off for 3 mins.. 3 times a day...... fluffs the mushrooms right up and over my expectancies


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Re: Air Exchange in a Martha? [Re: LengthyFellow]
    #3820569 - 02/23/05 02:26 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

thanks man


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Re: Air Exchange in a Martha? [Re: sillysimon]
    #3820570 - 02/23/05 02:26 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

try it.. i hav an exhaust sytem on another kit of mine.. and ive, put incense smoke and watched the flow of air in the kit... all it really did WAS MIXIT UP ANYWAYS.. creates a tornado type deal with the air.. and that fresh air hitting the mushies is really healthy... i bet the exhaust sucks only 10 percent of the air out and mixies the rest


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Re: Air Exchange in a Martha? [Re: sillysimon]
    #3820572 - 02/23/05 02:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

no prob..


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Re: Air Exchange in a Martha? [Re: LengthyFellow]
    #3820597 - 02/23/05 02:33 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Why not use the cool mist, ultrasonic combo?



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Re: Air Exchange in a Martha? [Re: Magash]
    #3820611 - 02/23/05 02:36 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thats what I say. Cool mist and ultra sonic all the way!


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Re: Air Exchange in a Martha? [Re: MrMaddHatter]
    #3820657 - 02/23/05 02:50 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i dont know...he bought an ultrasonic on ebay but the filter is broken and it leaks everywhere, and the perlite gets it up to 99% humidity, so he doesnt feel like spending another $100 just for air exchange...what are the benefits of doing all that work? as i understand it you have to have the ultrasonic on a timer or it will be too much humidity. are there any teks that explain this method further?


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Re: Air Exchange in a Martha? [Re: LengthyFellow]
    #3821892 - 02/23/05 01:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Just use a cool mist for air exchange. A cool mist can be had for like 25 bucks at walmart and an ultrasonic like 35, its not 100 bucks. Even just a cool mist should work with the perilite in place of the ultrasonic.


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Re: Air Exchange in a Martha? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3822942 - 02/23/05 05:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

my math for the 100:

30 for a coolmist
40 for an ultrasonic
10 for a timer
10-20 for supplies to connect and seal the humidifiers to the chamber

How do you go about connecting the coolmist to the chamber? I am dealing with probably 2mm plastic covering as the walls.


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Re: Air Exchange in a Martha? [Re: LengthyFellow]
    #3822964 - 02/23/05 05:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

KMART has
19.99 coolmist
29.99 US
8$ timer
some plastic tubing+ PVC parts if you please- 10-15 bucks.(may not be at kmart)


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