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Re: unka tim sez: [Re: gnrm23]
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best post ever.

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yea...... [Re: Vvellum]
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Actually, i dont get what you mean by breakthrough. Its a drug not a gateway to the gods, get used to it. Stop trying to make this drug out to be spectacular. Your obviously not very experienced with salvia or you would know that you do feel the effects off smoking it like MJ. I have done it several times. Im sure many people can achieve the desired effects with a normal lighter also if not EVERYONE who uses a regular lighter. This isnt crack its burning point is the same as pot. Who cares about the uninformed they were my friends not some complete strangers. Bitch at me when i start date raping people with salvia or sneaking it into the unsuspecting's tea. it was fuckin funny i laughed they laughed we all laughed and then they wanted to smoke it again.

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Re: yea...... [Re: MontyRev]
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While I dont support Montyrev's stance on this AT ALL (dosing people isn't cool)

Some of the posts in this thread seem kinda arrogant to someone who's never took the drug.

i.e. Salvia is NOT a recreational drug. Says who? Some people might have a blast in public, around friends ect. Who knows everyone is different.

I don't know, just seems like you guys are to hard on people about salvia. (I've seen other threads like this one)

All this being said I have never done salvia. Perhaps I'll order some :stoned:


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Re: yea...... [Re: EvilEwok]
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Lemme see If I can help on some of the confusion of the effects of Salvia from using my own experiences.

"Salvia is by no means a "fun" drug. If you actually did "lace" your friends' blunt with salvia, they would have more than likely felt nothing. Salvia can't be smoked like marijuana. It needs to be inhaled rapidly and with a hotter flame. If your friends were smoking this like mj, then they would have felt nothing."

Rockstafarian: Before I broke through into a full blown Salvia trip, the first two times I smoked it it was a "fun" drug. I smoked dried leaves out of my herb pipe and couldn't stop laughing. It was in fact kind of like marijuana, in a way. Also, other people who I have smoked Salvia with aggree. Just fun, uncontrollable laughter.

"Its a drug not a gateway to the gods, get used to it. Stop trying to make this drug out to be spectacular. Your obviously not very experienced with salvia or you would know that you do feel the effects off smoking it like MJ."

MontyRev: From my personal experiences, Salvia IS a gateway to the gods (or godess). It is in fact spectacular. By smoking it like herb you can get effects simliar (slightly) to marijuana. But used properly, it can turn you into a spiral of colors in a totally different dimension. It is by far the most powerfull experience of my life. Nothing can compair to it. And if you ever break through, my god you will be scared shitless.

"This isnt crack its burning point is the same as pot"

Untrue. The burning point of Salvinorin A is higher than the burning point of TCH. That's why using a torch/jet lighter makes breaking through much easier.

The effects of Salvia can vary greatly between person, potency, and environment. It can have both a similar effect to pot, and a totally out of this world (quite literally) effect.
I hope that I have cleared a few things up.


Peace

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Re: yea...... [Re: Chapter24]
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Nicely said Chapter24


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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln

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Re: yea...... [Re: dblaney]
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If you take the time to do things the correct way you are usually rewarded.

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Re: yea...... [Re: wishcouldeletethis]
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This thread disgraces the ethnobotanical garden  :nonono: It should be locked.

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Re: yea...... *DELETED* [Re: Atma]
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Re: yea...... [Re: wishcouldeletethis]
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Kids selling salvia 5x for 30 dollars a gram is disgraceful. Kids putting salvia in blunts to startle kids who have no idea what the drug is, is disgraceful. My post was not directed to you, so please back off.

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Re: yea...... [Re: Atma]
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Kids selling salvia 5x for 30 dollars a gram is disgraceful. Kids putting salvia in blunts to startle kids who have no idea what the drug is, is disgraceful.


I agree that is very disgraceful and disgusting in general.These same kids are the reason responsible people lose priviledges and the reason why salvia is staring down the barrel of prohibition.

Soon enough salvia will be banned simply because highschool kids think its "cool" and that its a "party drug".

Also the biggest thing that disgusts me is the lack of respect for the entheogens in general and the plant spirits.


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Do not desire to reach a high level.Rather work without thought of reward to iron out flaws and impurities in one's self for the sake of one's self.When one has done this one needs not to desire anymore. http://www.lifeforceonlinestore.com/yc/

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Re: yea...... [Re: wishcouldeletethis]
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you help people grow mushrooms and cacti and a variety of other plants , hmmm... im sure no one is selling any of that, it would be " disgraceful" , boo friggin hoo. how else do u share the experience , give it away? its not like anyone bitch slapped your girl friend or talked about your mother, or insulted your religion so why exactly should this post be locked?


The disrespect for plants and man alike in this thread needs to STOP people.

People here help people to grow entheogens so that one many enjoy entheogens freely in a positive manner and a positive goal.Free from capitalism and overpriced items.I am sure most of us here are NOT condoning dealing entheogens.


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Do not desire to reach a high level.Rather work without thought of reward to iron out flaws and impurities in one's self for the sake of one's self.When one has done this one needs not to desire anymore. http://www.lifeforceonlinestore.com/yc/

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Re: yea...... [Re: UnenlightenedOne]
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I could not agree more, UnenlighteneOne, thank you. Surely Lady Salvia's spirit stirs in restlessness because of this thread. And as he said, respect your fellow plant and man alike!

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Re: Selling Salvia on the streets [Re: Atma]
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ive been fed 4 doses thinking i was eating 1 once. it was diluted in water so i couldnt tell, and didnt want to say waste your shit. anyways i puked all over the place was not happy, and gave him back the same karma when he was freaking out on 6! hot, cold, hot, cold i bet his 8 hours of oven to freezer showed him!


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Re: Selling Salvia on the streets [Re: S8N]
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To answer the original question, no I haven't sold any, and I wouldn't. That's just asking for its scheduling.

MontyRev, why do you think that just because it doesn't kill someone means that it is ok? Do you realize how salvia could possibly fuck someone up psychologically? That's nothing to be taken lightly.

Chapter24 said it. Somebody experienced with salvia would know that it CAN be slightly like MJ when using the drug for the first few times, but it will change drastically when you least expect it. That mj high will be replaced with a reality shattering, probably frightening experience.

MontyRev - physically burning salvia leaf and MJ would take place at about the same temp, but like Chapter24 said, the active chemicals have very different vaporization points. Salvinorin's is 530*F, and MJ's is 392*F.

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Re: Selling Salvia on the streets [Re: orangepit]
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I made a FUCKING KILLING!!! although I feel as though in the process of doing so I molested my beliefs and the meaning of a very sacred plant, but I did make a FUCKING KILLING!!! I didnt even lie or break the law, I was selling 2 grams of pretty potent leaf, not extract, for 15 dollars, I think, I may have my numbers jumbled, its been awhile, initially I talked about 50 people into buying a dose and probably gave away one two four times as many, my whole high school was turned on, I prolly had more then half of the people come back for more, and continue to do so, the only illegal thing I did was not pay taxes.


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i am the spit on the hair of the son of an electron, swimming around the nucleus of a cell inside the sperm of a killer bee, and my purpose is as nebulous as why weve been bestowed with the capacity to give a shit" Brandon Boyd


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Re: Selling Salvia on the streets [Re: incubaby_421]
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and as for the getting people to break through part... if you do sell it, for the love of goddess give these people some instruction and background and sense of direction, do your best not to pervert its meaning.


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"yet the more i dig, the more i consume, the more i unfold... the less protected i feel.
i am the spit on the hair of the son of an electron, swimming around the nucleus of a cell inside the sperm of a killer bee, and my purpose is as nebulous as why weve been bestowed with the capacity to give a shit" Brandon Boyd


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