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Offlinefuturestresder
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NO PINS
    #3816039 - 02/22/05 09:01 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Hey peoples...my question is: How come my 16 equador pf cakes are no pinning yet? It has been over 2 weeks, I cold shocked and dunked them. PLEASE HELP ME. I did everything right, i fan 4-5 times a day their is perlite in the containers, the cakes are white like my teeth, temps are room 76, no clue whats going on.    :confused:

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Re: NO PINS [Re: futurestresder]
    #3816046 - 02/22/05 09:03 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

what about light and you ansewerd your slef when you seid pf cakes pf caks is like watching a moive is super slow motion


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Re: NO PINS [Re: onetime]
    #3816049 - 02/22/05 09:06 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Conditions are right. Just wait. They should pop anytime.


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Magash:  I noticed my contams were in the shape of fingers :whack:
Hyphae:  Yes  "Loss of moisture from the substrate"  is not a casing trigger.  :cuckoo:

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Re: NO PINS [Re: futurestresder]
    #3816052 - 02/22/05 09:07 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

it sucks, but patience....


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Re: NO PINS [Re: dobinky]
    #3816057 - 02/22/05 09:11 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks guys, its just so frustriting...i feel like they're dead or something. This is one of my first grows so. One more question, i have some cakes that are colonized but the mycelin is not really white as in puffy white. Is this bad and can i fruit them and will they produce.

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Re: NO PINS [Re: futurestresder]
    #3816072 - 02/22/05 09:24 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

what's your humidity at? too high humidity will delay pinning

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Re: NO PINS [Re: craq_rooster]
    #3816077 - 02/22/05 09:26 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

im not sure what my humidity is at because i dont have a gadge. Im just a college student trying to get into the hobby. I have perlite in the container and their is moisture on the walls. but not too much.

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Re: NO PINS [Re: craq_rooster]
    #3816081 - 02/22/05 09:27 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

craq_rooster said:
what's your humidity at? too high humidity will delay pinning




Cakes need 100% humidity.


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Self Healing lid tek ** Update 10.17.17 **
Mini casing pictures: Pins to harvest
Cup O' Shrooms
Magash:  I noticed my contams were in the shape of fingers :whack:
Hyphae:  Yes  "Loss of moisture from the substrate"  is not a casing trigger.  :cuckoo:

My final Grow!

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Re: NO PINS [Re: Citric]
    #3816090 - 02/22/05 09:31 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

can you tell me how to raise the hummidity in the container so that it is 100%. I really appreciate all the help...thanks people

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Re: NO PINS [Re: Citric]
    #3816097 - 02/22/05 09:32 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Citric said:

Cakes need 100% humidity.




it's possible to have too high humidity for cakes, i've done it before.

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Re: NO PINS [Re: craq_rooster]
    #3816106 - 02/22/05 09:35 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)


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x [Re: craq_rooster]
    #3816160 - 02/22/05 09:54 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

are you sure they were 100% colonized before they came out?
if you can see any grain exposed, then this means that the contams can reach it too.
as cubes were not meant to be grown on sterilized grain, they need to be the sole inhabitors of the cake.
this is not the case in it's natural environment; they thrive amongst a multitude of bacteria in an aging pile of horse poo.

if you are not 100% sure that they were 100% sure, i would recommend you keep a sharp eye out for anything suspicious.
(and if you see anything more blue than green, don't bother trying to identify it, pitch it and any else like it. there's no saving them, only yourself.


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Re: x [Re: psilocyben]
    #3816212 - 02/22/05 10:10 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

i dunno if it was a spelling mistake but did he say he had them in his fruiter in the container because you need to take them out to fruit

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Re: x [Re: sporeman_1]
    #3816237 - 02/22/05 10:17 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

actually the only bad grammer is yours, i checked all my posts and they seem to be what i mean, like the blue meanies. -peace

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Re: x [Re: sporeman_1]
    #3816240 - 02/22/05 10:18 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

The 'fluffyness' is rihzo growth and is normal. They stall because of the tempature. I have no problem in 95%+ humidity. Pre-pin or fruiting.

And I do casings.



"The high humidity is good at that stage, but a too high temperature causes the mycelium to continue growing vegetatively after birthing instead of pinning and fruiting."


Think what you want though.


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Self Healing lid tek ** Update 10.17.17 **
Mini casing pictures: Pins to harvest
Cup O' Shrooms
Magash:  I noticed my contams were in the shape of fingers :whack:
Hyphae:  Yes  "Loss of moisture from the substrate"  is not a casing trigger.  :cuckoo:

My final Grow!

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Re: x [Re: Citric]
    #3816252 - 02/22/05 10:21 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

sorry man i read it wrong just woke up

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Re: x [Re: Citric]
    #3816254 - 02/22/05 10:21 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks man, its just really hard because i have the incubator next to the vent which is set at 78 and that causes the whole house become warmer. I have like 120 colonizing jars, most of them are done its just i have no where to put them and im waitting to see about these. SO...lower the temps??? -peace

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Re: x [Re: futurestresder]
    #3816267 - 02/22/05 10:24 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

When you are fruiting you want 95%+ humidity and room tempature(Mid to low 70s).

Alot of things factor into fruiting, it is never just one thing. Humidity and air exchange are the main factors.


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Self Healing lid tek ** Update 10.17.17 **
Mini casing pictures: Pins to harvest
Cup O' Shrooms
Magash:  I noticed my contams were in the shape of fingers :whack:
Hyphae:  Yes  "Loss of moisture from the substrate"  is not a casing trigger.  :cuckoo:

My final Grow!

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Re: x [Re: psilocyben]
    #3816726 - 02/22/05 12:14 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

psilocyben said:
(and if you see anything more blue than green, don't bother trying to identify it, pitch it and any else like it. there's no saving them, only yourself.




what? blue = bruising, green = trich ?


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