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InvisibleEgo Death
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PC Problems - New games won't work! Arrrgg!
    #3812625 - 02/21/05 07:41 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Hey all.

I just got two new games, half-life 2 and Thief 3!!!

The problem is I can't play either!!!

I had '98 before and upgraded it to XP so that Thief would run.  XP said there would be problems with my graphics card but I didn't imagine this :frown:

XP wouldn't use the '98 driver in the upgrade and left it blank.  I tried installing from CD but this fails.  I presume their is no XP driver on CD so I start searching on-line.

Problem is I cannot find the correct driver.  I've downloaded some big files now (I'm on 56K modem!:sad:) and its really pissing me off because none of them work!

My G card is a v9180 magic.  This is what it says on the card and from what I've read on-line, I presume its an asus. Although I swear I paid for it believing it was an ati? :confused:

God if anyone can help me then 5 shrooms straight away because this is doing my nut in!!! :nuts:


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Re: PC Problems - New games won't work! Arrrgg! [Re: Ego Death]
    #3813040 - 02/21/05 09:06 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

your card
Microsoft? DirectX? 8.X and OpenGL? 1.3 Optimizations and Support
Delivers the best performance and guarantees compatibility with all current and future 3D applications and games.

thief 3
100% DirectX 9.0 Compatible video Card
(Ive tried running thief 3 on below spec machines and it wont work at all)

xp driver those are the drivers from asus website


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Re: PC Problems - New games won't work! Arrrgg! [Re: intrigue]
    #3816639 - 02/22/05 01:55 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

the v9180 appears to be this card:
http://usa.asus.com/products/vga/v9180vs/overview.htm

if it is, then it is a nVidiaGeforceMX440, which is NOT enough horsepower for the games you want to play. You'll have to go out and buy a new card.

Cheapest - Geforce 5700
Low-Mid-level - Radeon 9600
Mid-level - Radeon 9800SE
Nice Card - Radeon 9800Pro
Best card - Radeon X800 AGP or Geforce 6800 AGP


Sorry mate, ive seen this happen all too often, people buy computers not knoing about the specifications required, and assume the high gigahertz will be enough for games, but you need a good videocard too.


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Re: PC Problems - New games won't work! Arrrgg! [Re: Elahrairah]
    #3818221 - 02/22/05 07:45 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Cool, cool new G-Card it is.  Man what a mission this has been!

Already bought new DVD drive and trying to get these games running is HELL!

I found drivers for the nVidia and now Thief 3 DS says "Pixel Shading error", I take it this is the graph card from what you guys have said.  So I can't play Thief yet.

I managed to get Half-Life 2's Steam shit installed after 2 hours on my 56k Modem, Jesus!!!  Now it won't let me play offline.  It says "not ready".  Its a fucking joke!!!  :mad:


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Re: PC Problems - New games won't work! Arrrgg! [Re: Ego Death]
    #3818293 - 02/22/05 07:56 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

With my budget it might have to be the:
ATi 128MB Radeon 9600ProSE Chipset AGP8x Graphics Card @ ?65

Would this cut it?

Will a card costing over double this like the ATi 128Mb Radeon 9800Pro AGP8x Graphics Card be that much better?

I have a feeling this motherboard is 4x AGP as well so will that need updating or will it work?


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Re: PC Problems - New games won't work! Arrrgg! [Re: Ego Death]
    #3819539 - 02/22/05 11:33 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

the quality on a graphics card increases with the square of the money you put in. If you value the good performance of these games, spend as much as you can. its really a gauge of how much you want to put into videogaming.

among the radeons SE means weaker among its model number and PRO means stronger. therefore the 9800 pro is a hell of a better card than a 9600se.

agp4x is not a big deal, thats just how fast levels would be loaded into the screen, 8x is twice the speed capability when uploading levels and models into the card from the harddrive, and that isnt a big deal. 8x cards will fit in a 4x or a 2x slot.

My personal experience is a Geforce3Ti, which unplayably poorly ran both games, to a 9800Pro256MB from newegg.com $180 USD,,,, which runs theif beautifully and halflife spectacularly.


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Re: PC Problems - New games won't work! Arrrgg! [Re: Elahrairah]
    #3820914 - 02/23/05 05:05 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Do NOT buy SE they are garbage...spend more for a Pro or XT it will be well worth it.

I've had my 9800 Pro 128mb for awhile now, it's been the best value card there is for like 2 years.


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Re: PC Problems - New games won't work! Arrrgg! [Re: kronnyQ]
    #3821960 - 02/23/05 01:40 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

half life 2 will not run with out a Internet connection. steam screwed all of u dial up people.

if u want offline play then find a cracked version.


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Re: PC Problems - New games won't work! Arrrgg! [Re: intrigue]
    #3823244 - 02/23/05 06:20 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

That fucking sucks dude.


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