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Myc defeating mold
    #3812400 - 02/21/05 07:04 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Sometimes if I have jars that have myc and mold I will just let them sit and see if the myc takes over.

I have had one jar where the MYC defeated the mold and went totally colonized, but it never fruited.

I have a jar of rye that is about 3/4 myc and 1/4 green mold, the myc seems to be winning.

Is this sucker gunna be fruitable or does myc that feeds off mold just not very healthy ?


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Re: Myc defeating mold [Re: kronnyQ]
    #3812529 - 02/21/05 07:22 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I don't know about mold but i have had a few jars that fruited after defeating bacterial contamination and they were fine. It's probably advisable not to do it though.


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Re: Myc defeating mold [Re: Twister]
    #3813106 - 02/21/05 09:18 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I'm also curious about this, although not curious enough to try mould contam mushrooms.


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Re: Myc defeating mold [Re: kronnyQ]
    #3813478 - 02/21/05 10:22 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

If you see any mold in a jar. That means it has sporalated, because it is that color. Sometimes myc will overcome it & the jar will appear 100% white.

That, IN NO WAY.... means there are not viable contam spores that remain viable in the jar. IMHO, 99.9% of the time, there are viable mold spores it it.

Once you spawn, incubate & about the time you are ready to case, is when they usualy show up. I KNOW, been there & done that more than once.

Now, if I ever even see a mold in a spawn jar, even smaller than a pin head on the inner tyvek 7 knowwhere else, trash can tek - it goes. It's just not worth wasting the bulk, adding possibly bad spawn.


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Re: Myc defeating mold [Re: agar]
    #3817260 - 02/22/05 04:37 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Yes I wouldn't put it in a casing but could i get away with fruiting?


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Re: Myc defeating mold [Re: kronnyQ]
    #3818123 - 02/22/05 07:30 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Personally, I'd try it out, unless it was black mold. Just quarantine it away from anything else you have fruiting.


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Re: Myc defeating mold [Re: TinTree]
    #4101758 - 04/27/05 05:32 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Can the mushrooms picked from the previously infected substrate carry up toxins in to their flesh?
If it is ok to pick from a substrate whos myc overtook the contams, then is it ok to resterilize contaminated bags and reuse them?


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Re: Myc defeating mold [Re: blackout]
    #4101953 - 04/27/05 10:05 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

lol, i just trash can-tek'd two jars last night


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Re: Myc defeating mold [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #4102144 - 04/27/05 11:28 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I guess it could work. But I prob wouldnt eat anything that was feeding off the mold. You never know if its gonna be safe or not.

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Re: Myc defeating mold [Re: ShroomOmatic]
    #4103332 - 04/27/05 05:31 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Happens all the time.




Ive had a few do this. I never ate anything that came from these jars though...


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Re: Myc defeating mold [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4105918 - 04/28/05 06:53 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I wouldnt eat them either. But if they went mouldy early and you resterilise does this destroy the toxic compounds. If I dropped a sandwich on manure I wouldnt eat it, if the manure was sterile I would think twice about it but still probably not eat it. Are there active human toxins in fresh manure? if shrooms can suck them up through the substrate then there would be more warnings against eating wild ones.

Grains are soaked to germinate the endospores prior to sterilisation so is there traces of toxins in these or are they destroyed upon sterilisation?


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