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noctem
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flashbacks
#3805090 - 02/19/05 10:34 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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heey i just had a question about shrooms, which i really wanna try, i was just wondering if like, a long term effect would be flashbacks, the reason why i ask this is because i plan on becoming a pilot for the airforce, and i know that they have a strict regulation that forbids anyone from becoming a pilot if they have taken acid, because of the risk of a flashback, i was just wondering if the same went for shrooms
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Pinhead
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Re: flashbacks [Re: noctem]
#3805116 - 02/19/05 10:38 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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I hear it's possible,but rare. Get your priorities in order for yourself and determine whats more important to you.
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Gainer
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Re: flashbacks [Re: Pinhead]
#3805857 - 02/20/05 03:31 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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i have shroom flashbacks sometimes but i only get them if i am really stoned and the setting is right.
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delta9
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Re: flashbacks [Re: Gainer]
#3805879 - 02/20/05 03:53 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Flashbacks are the result of intense emotional experience. Post Traumatic Stress Disorder is a form of Flashback.
It is nothing chemical in the mushroom that will cause it.
You probably won't have any flashbacks unless you have a really strong experience that effects you deeply on some level, and usually only if it was a bad trip (flashbacks to bad trips are more common for some reason).
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Asante
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Re: flashbacks [Re: noctem]
#3805992 - 02/20/05 05:52 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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the reason why i ask this is because i plan on becoming a pilot for the airforce, and i know that they have a strict regulation that forbids anyone from becoming a pilot if they have taken acid, because of the risk of a flashback
The answer is very simple:
The Air Force has a very strict rule that forbids a history of LSD in their pilots because of the risk of flashbacks. Mushrooms are major psychedelics and are known to cause flashbacks in some.
This is not about a drivers licence. This is about the possibility of having to ditch a $ 20.000.000 aircraft into a populated area at 900 mph because of you taking risks that the US Airforce strictly forbids.
Yes, mushrooms are no LSD, so by the letter of the rules you would not violate them if you had/used mushrooms. But if you are of The Right Stuff instead of a rules stretcher then you will heed the SPIRIT of the rules which says that if you have taken a major psychedelic then you are thereby unfit to be a pilot, or, if you want to be a pilot, you must abstain from psychedelics use.
The US Army has got a point. Being a pilot results in high intensity experiences that require your utmost attention. Flashbacks, if they occur at all, tend to occur in high intensity experiences and will temporarily destroy your capability for high concentration.
At a speed of 500 meters a second you'd best be on your mental peak, not a psychedelic one.
The US Army has extensively studied LSD as a chemical warfare agent in Edgewood Arsenal, Maryland from the 1950s into the early 1970s. You can count on them knowing more about LSD then they'll ever admit to.
We are a bunch of tie-dying, potsmoking hippies We know alot of LSD but just about shit about the science behind what it takes to be a jet aircraft pilot.
The US Army has got brilliant scientists who know very much about jet pilot requirements and brilliant scientists who know very much about LSD. You shouldn't question the rules in the first place but if their scientists agree amongst themselves that ex-psychedelic travellers should not become jet aircraft pilots then that too adds a compelling reason to either not fly a blotter/mushroom or a jet aircraft.
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Re: flashbacks [Re: Asante]
#3808964 - 02/20/05 10:53 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah right. I think they are simply afraid of giving a head that much power. You might just fly that thing straight to cuba, after years of training, for the sake of chaos. I think you should be more concerned about the short term effects..the possibility having a life altering experience that changes your persepctive of the military and your path. Or it might not be a big deal..
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The_Green_Glow
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Re: flashbacks [Re: rdnp2035]
#3809063 - 02/20/05 11:11 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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i thought flash back was simply being reminded of something that you experienced while on shrooms in a sober state of mind...
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The_Green_Glow
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correct me if i am wrong
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Re: flashbacks [Re: ]
#3809469 - 02/21/05 01:23 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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whats that pic called? the moisture that forms when a jet is passing through the speed of sound? thats a damn cool pic.
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Asante
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i thought flash back was simply being reminded of something that you experienced while on shrooms in a sober state of mind...
A flashback is the induced recurrence and reliving of intense situations. A psychedelic flashback would throw you off-guard and make you feel like you're in the middle of a strong trip for a few minutes or so. You don't want that at 500meters a second during combat maneuvres.
A common theme that bugs people in trips is the theme of "no escape/no exit".. what is more suitable then being strapped in a small cockpit with an oxygen mask and engaging in a hostile confrontation for supplying a situation that HAS "no escape/no exit"?
The Army's got a point, more points then we realize. Either you trip or you become a flyboy, but not both. If you deliberately break a crucial safety rule before joining up then you have not got what it takes.
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noctem
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Re: flashbacks [Re: Asante]
#3810331 - 02/21/05 10:00 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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well thanks for all the information, i guess that puts me at a fork in the road.
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LilShank
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Re: flashbacks [Re: noctem]
#3813083 - 02/21/05 07:14 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ive never got flashbacks from mushrooms but i have gotten them from Ecstasy
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Re: flashbacks [Re: LilShank]
#3815487 - 02/22/05 03:00 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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LilShank said: Ive never got flashbacks from mushrooms but i have gotten them from Ecstasy
How do you know the difference?
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LilShank
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BloodNOil said:
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LilShank said: Ive never got flashbacks from mushrooms but i have gotten them from Ecstasy
How do you know the difference?
If i was experiencing mushroom like affects i would know that was a mushrooms flashback If i was having Ecstasy like effects i would know it was an ecstasy flashback
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Re: flashbacks [Re: LilShank]
#3820379 - 02/22/05 11:43 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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my physiology teacher was trying to say that ALL flashbacks are negative. I have expereinced shrooms flashbacks, but so far for just a few seconds. Never a few minutes like Wiccan says. (some of the flashbacks were from a scary experience on shrooms and the others we're from positive parts of my trip that i disticntly remember. it felt stronger than dejavu but not as nearly as intense as the trip itself. anyways, if anybody has any documented proof of positive flashbacks, drop a link.
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Re: flashbacks [Re: noctem]
#3820673 - 02/23/05 12:55 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have never heard of fashbacks from mushrooms..i mean ever! they are so natural...they are in fact one of the most safest substances ever...
Edited by skunk78395 (02/23/05 01:01 AM)
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delta9
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Re: flashbacks [Re: Skunk420]
#3820772 - 02/23/05 01:20 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Any intense emotional experience can cause flashbacks... Post Traumatic Stress Disorder is said to be a form of flashbacks. This is why bad trips are more flash-back prone. It's a mind thing, and not a drug-specific thing. It's also a phenomena that we don't have a lot of information on, so it is best to be safe than sorry if you're flying around in a jet... Wiccan_Seeker makes a good point that I didn't think about at all before he said - you're "trapped" in a tight cockpit when you're flying a plane and the fear that you could lose engine power and fall to your death is always in the back of your mind. Situations like these can bring on a flashback.
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Re: flashbacks [Re: noctem]
#3822871 - 02/23/05 03:10 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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I used to get flash backs in the 80's from taking Acid in the 70's and 80's. I haven't took Acid since...1984. My last flash back was in 1987...at a Mexican Taco Joint that had 60's style Tapistries on the walls and light shades...I started seeing tracers.
I have been dosing on mushrooms since 1975. I haven't experienced any type of flash backs from using mushrooms...that I am aware of.
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Re: flashbacks [Re: ]
#3853740 - 03/01/05 06:15 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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jono1 said: whats that pic called? the moisture that forms when a jet is passing through the speed of sound? thats a damn cool pic.
Its called a Sonic Boom, when it passes through the sound barrier
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