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Re: You Don't Need Logic To Find Truth... [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3806418 - 02/20/05 11:10 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Oh, and btw..

Would you really be interested in a female version of Spock?


Oh, yes.

I would be interested in T'pol anyday:




:wink:


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Re: You Don't Need Logic To Find Truth... [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #3806429 - 02/20/05 11:13 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I would imagine they would fare well indeed. Being all logic, you wouldn't know what you were missing.

If I could choose between all logic, illogic or a blend of both, I would go for the blend. I would miss the creative arts and forms of expression that come from emotional inspiration, abstract thinking, and discovery, invention, creations made by mistakes.

The art in your sig is abstract and not logical. Are you sure you want a life devoid of that?


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Re: You Don't Need Logic To Find Truth... [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #3806439 - 02/20/05 11:16 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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SkorpivoMusterion said:
Oh, and btw..

Would you really be interested in a female version of Spock?


Oh, yes.

I would be interested in T'pol anyday:




:wink:





Good One!


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Re: You Don't Need Logic To Find Truth... [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3806566 - 02/20/05 12:09 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

You remind me of the old stance of "Open mindedness vs Logic". This is an argument that stems from a deeper root that can be referred to as: Close-mindedness, which is a form of fear.

However, I am certainly not one to dispel open mindedness, for I am too well aware that a closed mind is just like a closed book; a block of wood.
This certainly does not go against freedom or logic. In fact, it is because of my freedom and tool of logic that I was able to see, understand and make such a statement.

In theory the generalization that "Close Minded = bad" and "Open Minded = good" sounds like a logical rule of thumb, however in practice and the way it is suggested by our society open mindedness can lead to the most extreme form of close mindedness. By being open minded to everything one essentially becomes closed minded to any specific [and possibly logical] idea which excludes some other idea, regardless of whether the other idea is logical.

Jiggy, being logical is not a mode of existence, it is merely a state of mind that is appropriate in certain situations. The 'disease' only comes into play when one builds an identity around logic, which creates the potential for neurotic and compulsive use of such tools of thought. This of course gives rise to the negative stereotypes that the word logic has been burdened with.

So one can indeed be 99.99% logical, and still make creative art. Just as long as they are not trying to "be" logical while at the same time they are trying to "be" creative.

The mind is "amphibias", and it would be wise to use this advantage which means to NOT attach to any specific capability of the mind, be it open mindedness or rationality. Hence, because one is none of those in particular, one is everything, or rather...all that is left, is everything else. :wink:



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Re: You Don't Need Logic To Find Truth... [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #3806578 - 02/20/05 12:14 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Oh no no no its not a versus case to me at all. I am all for non polar merging and blending of complimentary contrasts living in harmony. Both are required in balance to me.

Your comment was to imagine a world of ALL logic. I did and suddenly it grew pale. A world without logical rationing would be all frivolous and that would not be satisfying or full filling either.

Captain Kirk to me is someone who represented a better balance.


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Re: You Don't Need Logic To Find Truth... [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3806727 - 02/20/05 01:12 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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gettinjiggywithit said:
Captain Kirk to me is someone who represented a better balance.




I'm sorry... I laughed out loud at that.
I just can't imagine female version of Kirk... with his speech patterns... he does comedy so much better.


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Re: You Don't Need Logic To Find Truth... [Re: Sclorch]
    #3806755 - 02/20/05 01:21 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Hahaha yes, that does paint a funny picture. Musssssssssssst reeesisT Saaaaaaale onnnn shoooesssss. Fiffy Perrrrrrcent oooooooff!


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Re: You Don't Need Logic To Find Truth... [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3806963 - 02/20/05 02:22 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I was thinking of what famous person, real life not characters, is a good blend of logical and abstract thinking. First to come to mind were Tom Hanks as a male example and Courtney Cox as a female example.


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Re: You Don't Need Logic To Find Truth... [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3807147 - 02/20/05 03:07 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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gettinjiggywithit said:
Hahaha yes, that does paint a funny picture. Musssssssssssst reeesisT Saaaaaaale onnnn shoooesssss. Fiffy Perrrrrrcent oooooooff!




:lol:

Spock, are you out of your Vulcan mind....? 

Captain, I am a DOCTOR, not a damn miracle worker....

Wait....    Shoes....?    :what:

>^;;^<


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Re: You Don't Need Logic To Find Truth... [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3807601 - 02/20/05 04:43 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)


>Have you ever tried that Diddy where you stick your right leg out sitting in a chair and move it in clockwise circle while moving your right hand in a clockwise circle and then when you switch and move your hand in a counter clock wise circle your leg automatically follows and you can't keep your leg going clockwise? That is totally illogical yet it is the truth of what happens. It's seems logical that your hand can move one way and your leg another, but its not and its a truth you can experience for yourself and prove.
-It probably won't seem illogical after you've taken a psychology course. The mind has some difficulty multitasking. What would your conclusion have to be if you used the same premise, but applied it to optical illusions? Logic can't explain it... those impossible things in the picture are truth.

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