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veggie
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37 liters of DMT seized
#3802305 - 02/19/05 01:06 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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$500,000 Worth of Drugs Seized February 18, 2005 klfy.com
A routine traffic stop in St. Landry Parish led police to a car full of drugs worth almost a half-million dollars.
Now, two Californians are behind bars on a variety of charges.
According to Chief Deputy Laura Balthazar, 46-year-old Hugo Arana and 51-year-old Luzia Krull, both of California, were transporting 37 liters of the hallucinogenic drug commonly known as DMT from California to Florida.
Deputies also found 10 ounces of marijuana.
Both krull and Arana are being held in the St. Landry Parish jail on $41,000 bond each.
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veggie
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Re: 37 liters of DMT seized [Re: veggie]
#3802336 - 02/19/05 01:20 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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37 liters of DMT?? When you consider the dosage of DMT is only 20-50mg, that's an ungodly amount!
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Re: 37 liters of DMT seized [Re: veggie]
#3802765 - 02/19/05 08:20 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wow...you think these folks would be wiser by that age than to drive with an amount of goods like that.
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Re: 37 liters of DMT seized [Re: veggie]
#3802782 - 02/19/05 08:39 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Was it actual dmt, or was it ayahuasca?
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Re: 37 liters of DMT seized [Re: gdman]
#3802865 - 02/19/05 09:36 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've drawn the conclusion that it has to be ayahuasca. Both names struck me as ethnic sounding, so I did a quick Google search for Hugo Arana and it seems there is an actor of the same name, but he would be 61 years old now. A search for Luzia Krull found some interesting things though:
Luzia Krull "most important thing about Santo Daime was to put me in direct communication with the creator." "developing that connection allowed me to be guided... how do you bring that to a culture which doesn't understand that?" "all of us who choose to surrender at that level, evolve."
http://www.erowid.org/general/conferences/conferences_ayahuasca1.shtml
"In fact, according to Luzia Krull, who represented the Santo Daime point of view, the Queen of the Forest came out of the forest not just to spread ayahuasca but to save her home, scene of the most rich biodiversity known on the planet."
http://www.sfbg.com/SFLife/34/25/drugs.html
It's a shame they were arrested for transporting THEIR religious sacrament. If they had to be caught, there best bet was in New Mexico.
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Re: 37 liters of DMT seized [Re: Boccherini]
#3802872 - 02/19/05 09:40 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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What ever happened to "freedom of religon", I guess they mean by that "freedom of western-european-semetic religon"
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Re: 37 liters of DMT seized [Re: veggie]
#3802905 - 02/19/05 10:19 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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$500,000 Worth of Drugs Seized
That's the most laughable part of it. Attaching a price to something so sacred. Plus if that was ayahausca, which I assume it was, that's not worth half a mill.
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Re: 37 liters of DMT seized [Re: Boccherini]
#3803125 - 02/19/05 11:54 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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I agree with your conclusion that the substance seized is ayahuasca, and not DMT. I should have known better than to assume a published news story is factual. That was good detective work on Luzia Krull, Boccherini.
An "active" dose of the religious sacrament, ayahuasca, is about 100ml (they may use more in their ceremony) so the 37 liters confiscated would only be enough for a small congregation of followers of the Santo Daime religion.
This would be the same "tea" that a federal appeals court stops the government from preventing its use, and was ordered to be returned, which now the White House again wants to ban.
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Re: 37 liters of DMT seized [Re: veggie]
#3803154 - 02/19/05 12:05 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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This would be the same "tea" that a federal appeals court stops the government from preventing its use, and was ordered to be returned, which now the White House again wants to ban
Things like this is why Im likely moving out of the country soon enough.
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wow, that's alot of dmt but this should be an interesting outcome seeing as how this could be the first documented case of mass dmt posses ion and prosecution. If it's an unscheduled drug what determines the extent of their punishment? this sounds weird to me because you can buy it on the Internet. so does the federal analogue act allow for a case by case analysis and some judge depending on his/her mood determine the outcome any way he/she sees fit?
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Re: 37 liters of DMT seized [Re: laurie1983]
#3803649 - 02/19/05 02:54 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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DMT is schedule 1, but this is ayahuasca, not pure DMT. This should be interesting because it's a religious sacrament.
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That is a huge ammount. I cant even emagine 37 liters of DMT!
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DMT isn't even liquid so it must be aya
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Re: 37 liters of DMT seized [Re: stefan]
#3807323 - 02/20/05 03:45 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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stefan said: DMT isn't even liquid so it must be aya
Yep
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Re: 37 liters of DMT seized [Re: gdman]
#3813233 - 02/21/05 07:40 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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gdman said: What ever happened to "freedom of religon", I guess they mean by that "freedom of western-european-semetic religon"
Should religions still be able to practice sacrifice on unwilling humans or anything for that matter?
There are many reasons to lambaste this case but the "freedom of religion" issue is just not one of them.
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Re: 37 liters of DMT seized [Re: d33p]
#3813470 - 02/21/05 08:20 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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d33p said:
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gdman said: What ever happened to "freedom of religon", I guess they mean by that "freedom of western-european-semetic religon"
Should religions still be able to practice sacrifice on unwilling humans or anything for that matter?
There are many reasons to lambaste this case but the "freedom of religion" issue is just not one of them.
Exercising their religion using ayahuasca responsibly harms nobody. Human sacrifice is harmful to others (obviously) and isn't allowed for a reason. These people with the DMT are having their religious freedoms taken away.
Edited by DNKYD (02/21/05 08:21 PM)
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Re: 37 liters of DMT seized [Re: DNKYD]
#3814250 - 02/21/05 10:22 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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no one is taking the hosts or wine from catholics. the strychnine and rattlers from those loonies in the appalachians hell, we let the iraquis slap themselves with swords
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Re: 37 liters of DMT seized [Re: gdman]
#3816506 - 02/22/05 11:16 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ultimately it is the 10 oz of marijuana that will get them convicted. Tuff to argue religious use when your DMT(ayahausca) was found with pot. Or are these rastafarian ayahuascan practitioners.
bummer either way.
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$500,000 Worth of Drugs Seized
That's the most laughable part of it. Attaching a price to something so sacred. Plus if that was ayahausca, which I assume it was, that's not worth half a mill.
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Re: 37 liters of DMT seized [Re: stefan]
#3820541 - 02/23/05 12:18 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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stefan said: DMT isn't even liquid so it must be aya
exactly my confusion when I read the title.......
and might I add: good god when will the oppression end?!?!
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