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OfflineCrazyBusiness
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Could use some advice how to start..
    #3797167 - 02/18/05 05:56 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I've been researching and learning about growing cubes for about a year now, only recently coming across this community, to much delight. I'm hoping if I state my objectives and limits, some of you might take a moment to craft me some advice. I am a new grower, but have enough enthusiasm and like to think enough sense, to learn quickly, and want to do things right, the way I will do them for a long time, from the start. I have looked at quite a few of the teks on this site, all of which have been very informative and helpful, and I think I need the help of some experienced shroomers in deciding which one, or what combination, is good for me.

Objective: I want to grow in bulk, enough for myself and my friends, with limited space, so I need a method that will get me dense pin sets and nice big fruit (but who doesnt want that?). I want to start with a tek that I'll want to stick with a long time, and therefore keep my equipment a long time. Simplicity is a plus, but I dont travel and dont mind spending lots of time caring for baby mushrooms :smile:

Limits: A budget of $600 CDN, and a space of about 3' deep by 5' wide by 6' high. If the space restriction is prohibiting, I may be able to find somewhere else.

So what do you think? What do I need to buy, and how do I need to use it? I have been thinking a crumble and case method in large shallow rubbermaid containers. ( like this )


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Life's too short, man.. Life's too short. Dont hate me, and I wont put space between us. Dont lie to me, and I wont dislike you. Keep an open mind, and I'll love you.

My advice of the week(do this, you'll like it): listen to Mahogany Rush.

Representing Beatiful British Columbian classic dank. Just think, Columbia for coke, British Columbia for buds. truth


Edited by CrazyBusiness (02/18/05 05:57 AM)


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Re: Could use some advice how to start.. [Re: CrazyBusiness]
    #3797193 - 02/18/05 06:30 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Where & how to start is/was always a tough one.

you have to learn to walk, before you can run. Otherwise, you fail a lot.

First pick a vendor & buy a 4 or 6 pack of mixed strains. That way - you can try several & find one that works well for you. Which strains is up to you. If you ask, you will get more opinions - than there are strains. EQ, B+, GT, Creeper, Amz & Tex are a few of the better beginner strains (my opinion - only).

Cheapest starter way is PF style cakes (because you don't need a PC) (CLICH HERE) & multiple TIT's (tub in tub) CLICK HERE .

From there move up to getting a PC (the bigger the better & All American PC is best), grain or wbs spawn, liquid culture propogation of myc, G2G & bulk substrates (if you have a source of h/poo - you got it made).

Print teks you think you like from FAQ. Ask Q's about anything you don't understand.

Be carefull of ADVICE from other than older hands, with good general & trade ratings. Sometimes, newbies give advice that is bogus.

Search FAQ & growlog section, take notes on ones that look good to you.

Good Luck............. :wink:


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Re: Could use some advice how to start.. [Re: agar]
    #3797254 - 02/18/05 07:21 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks.
"From there move up to getting a PC (the bigger the better & All American PC is best), grain or wbs spawn, liquid culture propogation of myc, G2G & bulk substrates (if you have a source of h/poo - you got it made)."

Could you go into a little more detail with this paragraph please?


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Life's too short, man.. Life's too short. Dont hate me, and I wont put space between us. Dont lie to me, and I wont dislike you. Keep an open mind, and I'll love you.

My advice of the week(do this, you'll like it): listen to Mahogany Rush.

Representing Beatiful British Columbian classic dank. Just think, Columbia for coke, British Columbia for buds. truth


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Re: Could use some advice how to start.. [Re: CrazyBusiness]
    #3797277 - 02/18/05 07:56 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

In another life, under a differing handle.....I wrote these:

Check them out.

Then after digesting them. Ask again & I will point you at somemore.

click here:

Then click here:

After that....CLICK HERE:



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Re: Could use some advice how to start.. [Re: agar]
    #3797302 - 02/18/05 08:16 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Good stuff.. In the words of Johnny 5 "more input" :smile: (I wonder if anyone will get that)

When you spawned your quarts of colonized WBS into the busboy trays, was that straight pasteurized manure? How much of it? Did you have to cook it again, or is buying pasteurized stuff clean enough?


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...in my opinion

Life's too short, man.. Life's too short. Dont hate me, and I wont put space between us. Dont lie to me, and I wont dislike you. Keep an open mind, and I'll love you.

My advice of the week(do this, you'll like it): listen to Mahogany Rush.

Representing Beatiful British Columbian classic dank. Just think, Columbia for coke, British Columbia for buds. truth


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Re: Could use some advice how to start.. [Re: CrazyBusiness]
    #3797330 - 02/18/05 08:39 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Find a source of weathered horse manure. There should be horses somewhere around you (You have horses in Canada - LOL - don't you).

It is well worthwhile. Simply because a few full garbage bags (or burlap gunny sacks, plastic totes)of horse manure is usualy FREE. No need to buy it on the high $ end, when you can scrounge it up.

Bagged shit from the store.... is just that & not worth the $2 a bag, except in a garden for tomatoes & such.


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Re: Could use some advice how to start.. [Re: agar]
    #3797825 - 02/18/05 12:09 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Depends on how much you want to grow and your definition of "bulk". With those space limitations I would suggest just doing cakes using a TiT for an incubator and a PMP for a fruiting chamber. You could fit 2-3 TiTs and 2 PMPs in your closest (or anything else with those measurements) and be ok without having to run humidifiers and plastic hose to take up space.


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Re: Could use some advice how to start.. [Re: Smushroom]
    #3797870 - 02/18/05 12:29 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

When you get casing down you can do full sterilite/rubbermaid containers and stack them. (that's what i do) Depends on how much you need.


Edited by thenewguy05 (02/18/05 12:33 PM)


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Re: Could use some advice how to start.. [Re: thenewguy05]
    #3799243 - 02/18/05 05:55 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

ok, so my method has been determined, and its time to go shopping. I've made a list, do I need more than this?

Spores
Pressure Cooker
1/2 pint jars
bleach
paper towel
sterile gloves
BRF
verm
rubbermaid containers
spray bottle
drying apparatus (wire screen, desiccant)
humidifier
aquarium heater
perlite
alchohol lamp
tape
tinfoil

Is there anything else I could concievably need at this point?


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...in my opinion

Life's too short, man.. Life's too short. Dont hate me, and I wont put space between us. Dont lie to me, and I wont dislike you. Keep an open mind, and I'll love you.

My advice of the week(do this, you'll like it): listen to Mahogany Rush.

Representing Beatiful British Columbian classic dank. Just think, Columbia for coke, British Columbia for buds. truth


Edited by CrazyBusiness (02/18/05 05:57 PM)


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Re: Could use some advice how to start.. [Re: agar]
    #3799341 - 02/18/05 06:17 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I miss that old raccoon av


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Re: Could use some advice how to start.. [Re: CrazyBusiness]
    #3805353 - 02/20/05 01:59 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Hello friend,
Youre going to have to determine your setup and process from whats available in your area.
Checkout this PROTOCOL
It should give you an idea of what materials were used and at what stages of a bulk grow. Be sure you use the helpful FAQ section on this website to understand the underlying concepts.


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