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 jazzcat
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 Newbie, please bear with me 
#3796769 - 02/18/05 12:57 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hello fellow shroomers!!! In just another week I will be starting my first PF cake grow ever. Throughout the past few days I have been rounding up my supplies and researching cultivation info on this site (by the way I love this site, thank you shroomery!). Now I just have to wait for my syringes to arrive. I have chosen the strain "Golden Teacher" for my first grow. As always since im a newbie I have a couple of questions to ask. First off, is the strain I chose a good beginner strain and will it give a good yield (given that I provide optimal conditions)? While the mycelium is colonizing in the jars, how can I keep the humidity around 70% (for fruiting im using the perlite tek to keep proper humidity 95%-100%) and do I need to air out the tub that ill be storing the colonizing jars in, or will any amount of light getting into the tub induce pinning before the cake is mature? Thanks a lot guys 
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 Re: Newbie, please bear with me [Re: jazzcat]
#3796793 - 02/18/05 01:05 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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1."First off, is the strain I chose a good beginner strain and will it give a good yield (given that I provide optimal conditions)?"
Yes, however most cubies are easy, but some are harder then others.
2."While the mycelium is colonizing in the jars, how can I keep the humidity around 70%"
Water with added H2O2 at the bottom of a double tub, a fish tank heater in a jar with an airstone inside, etc.
3."do I need to air out the tub that ill be storing the colonizing jars in"
NO, and beside when you check them the tub will gulp in air as you pull off the lid.
4."will any amount of light getting into the tub induce pinning before the cake is mature"
As long as its dark(completly dark) in your tub, opening your tub even once a day wont cause early pinning.
Best Wishes.
Good Luck.  
Psilo 
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 niteowl
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Re: Newbie, please bear with me [Re: jazzcat]
#3796909 - 02/18/05 01:54 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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First off, is the strain I chose a good beginner strain and will it give a good yield
Yes
While the mycelium is colonizing in the jars, how can I keep the humidity around 70%
The humidity isnt an issue while they are still collonizing the jar. humidity is only an issue when you put them in the fruiting chamber.
and do I need to air out the tub that ill be storing the colonizing jars in
just checking them daily will give plenty of air exchange during collonization
will any amount of light getting into the tub induce pinning before the cake is mature
The cakes shouldnt start pinning untill you have a temp drop. Going from 85 during collonization down to 75 for fruiting. The drop in temp initiates the pinning.
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Re: Newbie, please bear with me [Re: niteowl]
#3796966 - 02/18/05 02:18 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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"The humidity isnt an issue while they are still collonizing the jar. humidity is only an issue when you put them in the fruiting chamber."
You dont NEED extra humidity, but it speeda up growth, ...alot 
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niteowl
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I will have to try that on my next go.
I have never tried to keep any type of humidity in my incubator.
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Re: Newbie, please bear with me [Re: niteowl]
#3797122 - 02/18/05 03:13 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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I belive for myself that humidity in the incubator causes more contam's.The jars or bags have more than enough water content in them.
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ZeroArmy27
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Re: Newbie, please bear with me [Re: KaptKid]
#3797298 - 02/18/05 06:14 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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i agree kid. humidity in the incubator is a bad idea.
and niteowl, there is more than one pinning trigger... light, temp drop, CO2 drop...
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Re: Newbie, please bear with me [Re: ZeroArmy27]
#3797357 - 02/18/05 06:54 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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well i am a noob also, following the pf tek i didnt know that your jars were supposed to be in an incubator and ive had a light on them constantly to keep them warm cause its pretty cold here,oops. ive been afraid of drying them out i never considered early pinning. im guessing that would be bad.
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Psilocybeingzz
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Re: Newbie, please bear with me [Re: ZeroArmy27]
#3804797 - 02/19/05 09:09 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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humidity in the incubator is a bad idea.
No, dirty water is a bad idea, extra humidity is a GOOD thing.
(god damn, I really need a camare  )
Even Statments, says so,in the mushroom cultivator Statments talks about how humidity helps incubation. (in fact look up the best humidity level for incubating mycelium, even a commercial grower(legal mushrooms) would say the same thing.
I am not talking about a tub full of water, I am talking about say a jar of clean water with some H2O2, some people put even more water in during winter.......pouring water right into the bottom of the incubator.(because of the low RH during winter, jars slow down,this water helps)
If everything is working for you, fine, dont change a thing
But I have tried both, and when done right, a bit of extra moisture helps.
If I am talking out of my ass may god strike me down, or a Mod.
It works 
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Quote:
Psilocybeingzz said:
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humidity in the incubator is a bad idea.
No, dirty water is a bad idea, extra humidity is a GOOD thing.
(god damn, I really need a camare )
Even Statments, says so,in the mushroom cultivator Statments talks about how humidity helps incubation. (in fact look up the best humidity level for incubating mycelium, even a commercial grower(legal mushrooms) would say the same thing.
the moisture helps to maintain an even heat, even notice on warm humid days it
seems much hotter... and when you need a camera, look at the link in my sig and
you'll fing cheap and easy 1.5megapixel conversion
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If I am talking out of my ass may god strike me down, or a Mod.
It works
I cant, I still owe you
my old incubator had holes in the bottom, humidity was allowed to travel into
the area that jars and bags were kept and they did fine, I never had a problem
with anythign drying out.
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 Re: Newbie, please bear with me [Re: Prisoner#1]
#3807253 - 02/20/05 03:30 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey guys, thanks for the help. I received my syringes today and I'm very excited! I'm going to build a glove box and thoroughly sanitize the area I'll be inoculating in tomorrow. Hopefully my first grow will be successful
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