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Fungus_Farmer
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Cut off contaminated part of cake?
#3795240 - 02/17/05 08:14 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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One of my jars is about 90% colonized, with the other 10% covered with a purplish mold. Could I cut off the uncolonized/contaminated parts and go ahead and fruit it normally?
-------------------- Excerpt from one of my textbooks: Therefore, between a then and its matching else, there cannot be an if statement without an else. Statements must be distinguished between those that are matched and those that are unmatched, where unmatched statements are else-less ifs and all other statements are matched. I wonder if that would make more sense if I was tripping when I read it.
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EuphoricDisaster
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Re: Cut off contaminated part of cake? [Re: Fungus_Farmer]
#3795249 - 02/17/05 08:18 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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10% contam is kinda testy. I once had a cake that got a tiny bit of green contam on it, i cut that off and it fruited fine, never getting contammed again. I dunno bout that purple mold, or mold thats 10%. Just keep it isolated from the rest of the crops. also, make sure to cut off more than just the purple part, cuz mold is deeper than you can see. the color is usually just the molds spores. my 2 pennies
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Damn_Skippy
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Re: Cut off contaminated part of cake? [Re: Fungus_Farmer]
#3795250 - 02/17/05 08:18 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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you can do it but mold spores shoot, so there is a chance that even though you cut off that particular part mold will continue to grow in a different spot
-------------------- ~Skipp "I like cigarettes, Miss Taggart. I like to think of fire held in a man's hand. Fire, a dangerous force, tamed at his fingertips. I often wonder about the hours when a man sits alone, watching the smoke of a cigarette, thinking. I wonder what great things have come alive from such hours. When a man thinks, there is a spot of fire alive in his mind---and it is proper that he should have the burning point of a cigarette as his one expression."
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Re: Cut off contaminated part of cake? [Re: Fungus_Farmer]
#3795276 - 02/17/05 08:23 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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first of all are you sure thats its a contam and not bruising?If your cake is almost fully colonized it could be a little dehydratyed which could cause some bruising,hence a purplish color.
besides that,if it is a contam,yes you can,i usually do this,it works well,i remove the contaminated section plus an additional 1/4-1/2 inch around the area.I then place the good section in the jar and fill with straight peroxide.I only leave this for about 20-30 seconds,NO MORE.Then i quickly empty irt and rinse the cake we;ll with cold steralized water.I then fill the jar with 90/10 water/peroxide and dunk as normal.by doing this i rarely have contams survive past this stage.just to be sure i keep that specific cake isolated for about a week,if nothing reapears,your golden,however i think you may just have bruising in your case.Good Luck
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tahoe
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Re: Cut off contaminated part of cake? [Re: BrotherJohn]
#3795286 - 02/17/05 08:25 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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cut it off, wash it in warm soapy water. it should be fine. You can hit the cut area with alcohol also. It will kill everything and the mycel should pop back through the verm in a day or two
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EuphoricDisaster
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Re: Cut off contaminated part of cake? [Re: tahoe]
#3795317 - 02/17/05 08:32 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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pic would help determine if it were mold or bruising, but Brotherjon could be right. make sure you know before you hack up your child.
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BrotherJohn
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right on. or else I might call Social Services.
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Minimalist
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Re: Cut off contaminated part of cake? [Re: BrotherJohn]
#3795351 - 02/17/05 08:41 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Don't risk it. If it's contaminated, those poisons could be and probably are all over your cake. Just throw it out and start a new one.
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Fungus_Farmer
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Re: Cut off contaminated part of cake? [Re: Minimalist]
#3795521 - 02/17/05 09:01 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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It wasn't bruised myc, it was on uncolonized parts of cake. It's soaking in the fridge right now in a water/peroxide mix just like the others (except I hacked the mold off). I've alread made a special "intensive care" fruiting chamber for it. Just a little rubbermaid food container with perlite in the bottom. Some people use them for fruiting cakes instead of one big fruiting chamber. This way I can still provide fruiting conditions and keep it separate in case it goes bad. Thanks for help all wish me luck.
-------------------- Excerpt from one of my textbooks: Therefore, between a then and its matching else, there cannot be an if statement without an else. Statements must be distinguished between those that are matched and those that are unmatched, where unmatched statements are else-less ifs and all other statements are matched. I wonder if that would make more sense if I was tripping when I read it.
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EuphoricDisaster
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Re: Cut off contaminated part of cake? [Re: Fungus_Farmer]
#3795585 - 02/17/05 09:03 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Damn_Skippy
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Re: Cut off contaminated part of cake? [Re: Fungus_Farmer]
#3795621 - 02/17/05 09:08 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
New_Shroomer81 said: I've alread made a special "intensive care" fruiting chamber for it.
-------------------- ~Skipp "I like cigarettes, Miss Taggart. I like to think of fire held in a man's hand. Fire, a dangerous force, tamed at his fingertips. I often wonder about the hours when a man sits alone, watching the smoke of a cigarette, thinking. I wonder what great things have come alive from such hours. When a man thinks, there is a spot of fire alive in his mind---and it is proper that he should have the burning point of a cigarette as his one expression."
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Victor
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Re: Cut off contaminated part of cake? [Re: Damn_Skippy]
#3795749 - 02/17/05 09:28 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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couple of ideas: 1. cut it off, fruit in different friuting chamber, perhaps even incubate in differnet chamber. 2. throw the whole cake out. personally i would just throw it out, better safe than sorry. -Victor
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Prisoner#1
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Re: Cut off contaminated part of cake? [Re: tahoe]
#3795794 - 02/17/05 09:38 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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tahoe said: cut it off, wash it in warm soapy water. it should be fine. You can hit the cut area with alcohol also. It will kill everything and the mycel should pop back through the verm in a day or two
thats the mkost insane crap I've ever read...
generaly if a contam shows on the surface, it's much deeper than you may believe
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tahoe
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Re: Cut off contaminated part of cake? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#3795817 - 02/17/05 09:44 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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if i had an infected cake i would show you how to do it.
-------------------- Stop experimenting half way through your first grow. Grow it to maturity, watch it, learn from it. Do this a few times then experiment with different ideas and figure out what works best for you. My Legacy https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22140987#22140987 Teh=The I need to proofread
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BrotherJohn
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Re: Cut off contaminated part of cake? [Re: tahoe]
#3795832 - 02/17/05 09:46 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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soapy water and alcahol are not a good thing for any cake.....no offense intended but thats freeakin wacky!
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tahoe
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Re: Cut off contaminated part of cake? [Re: BrotherJohn]
#3795897 - 02/17/05 09:57 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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shit, it will recover. Someone, anyone with a cake. Cut it in half, wash it with soap, spray the cut with alcohol and take a pic. Show these guys that it will work
-------------------- Stop experimenting half way through your first grow. Grow it to maturity, watch it, learn from it. Do this a few times then experiment with different ideas and figure out what works best for you. My Legacy https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22140987#22140987 Teh=The I need to proofread
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