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2 teks im trying out need your opinion
    #3793943 - 02/17/05 05:23 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

ok ive failed four times in a row with the pf tek :blush: :confused: ive tried everything. i really dont wanna waste any more money one syringes so i decided to try somethign new. First of all im going to try popcorn. ive read up on the teks and im going to abide by them (soak, simmer, inoculate, colonize and case). this should be a good thing for me to try out. Next im goign to try a little something i havent been able to find any info on. im going to use regular old brown rice. my plan is to use the popcorn tek with the rice to attain the correct moisture content and then jus inoculate colonize and case. in the early days of colonization i will shake up the jars and everything and see wut happens. if anyone has tried this please let me kno how it went and anythign else you think i should know. thank you and good luck to all.


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Re: 2 teks im trying out need your opinion [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #3793991 - 02/17/05 05:34 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

if you want we can try to figure out why you failed with the pf-tek . i feel everybody starting out should master pftek before moving on cause it gives you a good feel for the grow. so if you want to try to figure out what went wrong just say and ill help.


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Re: 2 teks im trying out need your opinion [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3794001 - 02/17/05 05:37 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

well i kno i made the mistake of not letting the jars cool long enough the second and third times, the first time my mycilium jus stopped growing for no apparent reason. the fourth time i think i might have let them dry out or something but other than that thr fourth tiem has no other apparent causes for my failure


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Re: 2 teks im trying out need your opinion [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #3794047 - 02/17/05 05:46 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

do you put tape on your jars?


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Re: 2 teks im trying out need your opinion [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3794072 - 02/17/05 05:51 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

yes i did


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Re: 2 teks im trying out need your opinion [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #3794090 - 02/17/05 05:54 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

dont use tape thats why your jars stalled and why try 4 probably didnt grow. mushies need good air exchange. look into tyvek or just leave the tinfoil you pc with on the jars. tyvek will have better results with no contams but youll be good with foil. i bet you wish you knew this then.


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Re: 2 teks im trying out need your opinion [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #3794140 - 02/17/05 06:03 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

when they were half way colonized take the tape off and turn theme up side down so the co2 lets out that could of stopped the growth and what temp do u keep your jars at idle temp is 86 i think good luck


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Re: 2 teks im trying out need your opinion [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #3794240 - 02/17/05 06:22 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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lordoftheshroomz said:
ok ive failed four times in a row with the pf tek :blush: :confused: ive tried everything. i really dont wanna waste any more money one syringes so i decided to try somethign new. First of all im going to try popcorn. ive read up on the teks and im going to abide by them (soak, simmer, inoculate, colonize and case). this should be a good thing for me to try out. Next im goign to try a little something i havent been able to find any info on. im going to use regular old brown rice. my plan is to use the popcorn tek with the rice to attain the correct moisture content and then jus inoculate colonize and case. in the early days of colonization i will shake up the jars and everything and see wut happens. if anyone has tried this please let me kno how it went and anythign else you think i should know. thank you and good luck to all.





You can't forget to PC If your using anything other then the pf tek.


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Re: 2 teks im trying out need your opinion [Re: Taskenti]
    #3799294 - 02/18/05 06:06 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

so do i get any tips about the brown rice tek?


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Re: 2 teks im trying out need your opinion [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #3799354 - 02/18/05 06:19 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I prefer to use bandaids instead of tape to cover the inoculation hole.. Its convenient since its already sterile. Seems to support good air exchange too..

I feel your pain man I failed a few times too..I think I finally figured it out tho.

Water content is very important! When you use popcorn to spawn I recommend pressure cooking instead of simmering. Pressure cook at 15psi for 45-60 min. The kernals will be easily smashed with your fingers when you get the content correct.


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Re: 2 teks im trying out need your opinion [Re: GlassOnion]
    #3799375 - 02/18/05 06:24 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

my only problem is no pressure cooker.... but i have a rice cooker that i can steam/boil the jars with to sterilize them


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Re: 2 teks im trying out need your opinion [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #3799383 - 02/18/05 06:25 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

You can't spawn grains without a pressure cooker (as far as I know).. I think you will have to make that investment.
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Re: 2 teks im trying out need your opinion [Re: GlassOnion]
    #3799402 - 02/18/05 06:30 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

why cant u spawn grains withotu a pressure cooker


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Re: 2 teks im trying out need your opinion [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #3799429 - 02/18/05 06:35 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I'm not totally sure why you have to pressure cook grains but my guess would be because it's easier to contaminate grains.


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Re: 2 teks im trying out need your opinion [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #3799494 - 02/18/05 06:45 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

It is almost impossible to sterilize a thick grainjar without a pressure cooker. Chances of failure are high, thought you had enough?

And even in the PC 1 hour at 120C is not enough. 90 minutes. And corn? Has very tough kernals.

If you have a PC there is not much reason not to start with grains. Its not getting easier after cakes anyway. But without a PC you should do the cakething.

And as Lemon_W suggested, tell us your whole process. From the selection and handling of the jars untill the moment that you tossed the cakes.

Everything! What jars, where did you buy which BRF, what lid, what breathing holes, did you cover them, with what, how sterilized, which spores, did you shake the syringe be4 inoc?, which Cake tek did you use? How did you incubate them, at what temps......

And everything I 4got 2 ask u..... :wink:


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