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Re: Get Ready...the draft if coming! Poll included [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3793453 - 02/17/05 02:13 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Innvertigo said:
poor people aren't the only ones who join the military.




thats worse than pathetic..and i neednt insult the intelligence of the audience by saying why its so...


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Re: Get Ready...the draft if coming! Poll included [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3793461 - 02/17/05 02:16 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Annapurna1 said:
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Innvertigo said:
poor people aren't the only ones who join the military.




thats worse than pathetic..and i neednt insult the intelligence of the audience by saying why its so...



Please get off your high horse and explain.


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Re: Get Ready...the draft if coming! Poll included [Re: Silversoul]
    #3793598 - 02/17/05 02:55 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

red herring.. ie the mere fact that not everyone that joins the military is poor is irrelevant to the notion of increasing poverty pushing more ppl into the military...


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Re: Get Ready...the draft if coming! Poll included [Re: FreeLaws1_6]
    #3793655 - 02/17/05 03:07 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

The ends justify the means. If the war on terrorism is opened on different fronts and they need more soldiers they will get more soliders. Be it a draft or something like stop loss.


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Re: Get Ready...the draft if coming! Poll included [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #3793678 - 02/17/05 03:12 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

If there is a draft, and I get chosen to go for war I will fight for my country.

I wont go and join, but if my country needs me I will fight.


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Re: Get Ready...the draft if coming! Poll included [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3793684 - 02/17/05 03:13 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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thats worse than pathetic..and i neednt insult the intelligence of the audience by saying why its so...




...or perhaps it's just that you don't know. I'd bet on that, if history is any indication. Your assertion is as pathetic as the person (the name escapes me) who said that recruiters only go to poor schools.


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Re: Get Ready...the draft if coming! Poll included [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3793697 - 02/17/05 03:16 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

read my post 3 above...EDIT ..and the fact that you missed it is also telling...


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Re: Get Ready...the draft if coming! Poll included [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3793725 - 02/17/05 03:28 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

your generalization is pathetic.


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Re: Get Ready...the draft if coming! Poll included [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3793746 - 02/17/05 03:36 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

*sigh* Calling eachother pathetic is pathetic...


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Re: Get Ready...the draft if coming! Poll included [Re: Rono]
    #3795168 - 02/17/05 09:01 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I have posted this previously but the money is still out there. My hundred to your ten that there will be no draft in the next year. I'll take names and give you mine and I have the money to pay.


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Re: Get Ready...the draft if coming! Poll included [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3795211 - 02/17/05 09:07 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Annapurna1 said:
there wont be a draft..so long as poverty continues to increase (irregardless of GDP growth..etc)..which will push more ppl into the military...




I know 12 ppl in the military, and not one of them come from a family that makes less than 500k a year.........


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Re: Get Ready...the draft if coming! Poll included [Re: blacksabbathrulz]
    #3795655 - 02/17/05 10:13 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

More blatent fucking Rumsfeld lies in that article. To the people saying I'll fight for my country if it needs me.. my jaw has dropped. There is no threat to America except the threat from it's government, but it has convinced you to go to 'war' with what will mostly end up being civilians.


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Re: Get Ready...the draft if coming! Poll included [Re: blacksabbathrulz]
    #3795678 - 02/17/05 10:16 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

^ i stand corrected...i thought that the US military had a bit more than 12 ppl..but it looks like i was wrong...does that also mean that talk about 1400-1500 deaths in iraq is all a bunch of lefty conspiracy bullshit??..or did all their families make >$500k too??...


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Re: Get Ready...the draft if coming! Poll included [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3796499 - 02/18/05 12:46 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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^ i stand corrected...i thought that the US military had a bit more than 12 ppl..but it looks like i was wrong...does that also mean that talk about 1400-1500 deaths in iraq is all a bunch of lefty conspiracy bullshit??..or did all their families make >$500k too??...




No, I'm sure a lot of their families didn't make nearly that much, in fact I would venture only about 2% of their families did. I don't think there is a huge disparity amonghst the lower class vs. the upper class in the military. I was making a point, which clearly you missed.  :thumbdown:


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Re: Get Ready...the draft if coming! Poll included [Re: Vulture]
    #3796674 - 02/18/05 01:32 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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fuck the draft!

although i think im safe...last one to carry the family name.




This, unfortunately, doesnt save you anymore. I think it is discussed in www.enjoythedraft.com


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Re: Get Ready...the draft if coming! Poll included [Re: YidakiMan]
    #3796691 - 02/18/05 01:38 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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I really really doubt a draft. The politicians know that another draft would make the social revolt of the '60s look like kindergarten class.




Americans are asleep. If two stolen elections, a lied about and un-investigated 9/11 attack, and a falsely pursued war didn't wake us up, a draft wont either.

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The military types know that an all volunteer army is superior to a forced service army.

And if there is another terrorist attack, then we would not need a draft because the lines to sign up will be out the door and around the block.




You're right about that! I think it would only take a simple calculated attack, or ignoring of an attack and our young patriots would be all ready to sign up. However, if this doesn't work, i have no doubt that a draft will ensue. Propaganda is everywhere!


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Re: Get Ready...the draft if coming! Poll included [Re: FreeLaws1_6]
    #3796726 - 02/18/05 01:46 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Americans are asleep. If two stolen elections, a lied about and un-investigated 9/11 attack, and a falsely pursued war didn't wake us up, a draft wont either.



1. A mix-up in Florida does not count as a stolen election, and I don't even know where you get off saying the second one was stolen.

2. The 9/11 attack was investigated by a commission. The fact that they may not have come to the same conclusions you have does not change that.

3. I'm not sure what is meant by falsely pursued war. Yes, the whole WMD thing turned out to be bogus, but my understanding is that Saddam was still in breach of the ceasefire agreement. Not that I think it was a good idea, but there were some legitimate reasons for doing it.


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Re: Get Ready...the draft if coming! Poll included [Re: Freeker]
    #3796745 - 02/18/05 01:51 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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If there is a draft, and I get chosen to go for war I will fight for my country.

I wont go and join, but if my country needs me I will fight.




Why? If you wont go join, why would you go if you were forced? You're country needs your brain and body defending its freedoms...not sent off to die in a fake war. Either stay here and fight for no draft (since that is true freedom), go join up now (don't wait for a draft...if you want to "fight for your country" when it "needs" you...do it now- it may lessen the chance that the draft will be called), or get the hell outta this damn country like me and my friends (our freedom is being taken from under our noses by the patriot act and such!).

It makes me sad to hear the types of things that you just said. It first of all doesn't make sense. if you supported your country in this war then you should go now. If you don't support it (and i don't assume you do or you would be out there now) then don't support it! Please don't play the "if my country needs me thing".

First off...what is "your country" you were just arbitrarily born to two people that were arbitrarily born here (probably). People assign waaaaay to much pride and identity to a piece of land that is governed by some people that we don't even know, who don't REALLY care about us, we'll never meet and would probably put us in jail if they knew half the things that we do. (keep in mind that "your country" is all for arresting you for YEARS for simple mind expansion substances, which I'm assuming you partake in being a member of this forum).

Second, this latent patriotic theme is an attempt at nobility, sure...but don't be afraid to just say "no, i don't want to go to war now (which is why you're not signed up) and I CERTAINLY wouldn't want to go if someone FORCED me to do it." If George bush pulls the draft he will be killing thousands of people that did not volunteer to be killed. You have the right idea in not sacrificing yourself already....don't sacrifice yourself if a draft is pulled! You are the only one that has the right to control your life...if you would go at all to war, do it by your own choice.


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Re: Get Ready...the draft if coming! Poll included [Re: FreeLaws1_6]
    #3796920 - 02/18/05 02:58 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)


First off...what is "your country" you were just arbitrarily born to two people that were arbitrarily born here (probably). People assign waaaaay to much pride and identity to a piece of land

I am all for allowing dissent, freedom of speech, and conscientious objection to certain actions. But, I am still dismayed when I see people so readily attack the idea of patriotism. I like my country. I don't agree with everything that goes on in it and all that it does, yet I care about it and the people who reside in it. It seems to be chic nowadays to attack these feelings as "rabid nationalism", "idiotic patriotism", or "caveman tribalism". I think these automatic "I hate my country" knee-jerk reactions are immature and stupid.


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Re: Get Ready...the draft if coming! Poll included [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3797108 - 02/18/05 04:06 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

there won't be a draft, barring a massive attack on our soil. and i do mean MASSIVE.

and if it's truly that massive, I don't think they'll NEED a draft.. i'd go sign the fuck up. Let's say that N. Korea nukes NYC? Yeah.. I'd enlist.


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