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Justice is Injustice
    #3793546 - 02/17/05 03:40 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Justice is Injustice

Justice is a flaw. The fact that lady justice is blind shows ignorance. Justice is to believe that if one does harm or does wrong that the society the live in as a whole has (or ones they live with have) the right to seek vengence to harm the accused perpetraitor(s) of an act of harm. Does this really make sence? Doesn't Justice harm as much as the previous injustice, thus the rituals acted out to accomplish both the innicial injustice and "finnishing" justice the same thing? Are they not both wrong?

In the society I live in (America), to say justice is good is to say that the ritual of society harming people as an enigma is good. This is directly false and the deffinition of justice falls apart when compaired to injustice. What about the justice system and laws? Well they are all bad things because they cause harm and they don't show any love at all. How many criminals come out of jail reformed? How many commit worse and worse offences after being released? To put people in jail is litterally to put them in an institution full of uncontrolled violence, rape theft, abuse and even murder to be realeased again. Does anyone really believe that a person who has gone through this horribly corrupt rehabillitation system has actually been rehabillitated? Just because society works as an enigma doesn't mean it doesn't have a face and a name built up of all the individual faces and names of the society itself. So for a society to act within the ritual of justice unstopped is for every individual to be committing injustice as an enigma called "the system."

Someone gets put in jail for smoking pot only to get tormented. They come out angrier and having more of a chip on thier shoulder against society and a training from other inmates on how to commit crimes rather than rehabillitation. Then how is it not understandable that the person commits felonies and worce crimes not only because they have been taught how withing the system, but because they want justice against the system that has caused them so much injustice. Do you see how it goes now? One guy says screw him, the other guys says screw you back. The first guy goes and hits him, the other guy hits back. By the end of this insane ritual we have a full strait up brawl between the malcontents of society who have been trampled on and the law enforcers who are supposed to represent us all.

The biggest problem is that NO ONE WANTS ANY OF THIS! Not the cops, society or the criminals. If everone would live in Love, we would have no problems with breaking crimes. Stupid laws wouldn't even be made and real laws would hold no neccessity. Honestly, when things do fall apart, we all have Love as the strongest and most basic force there is to fall back on. Since it is the most basic force, it is the most abundant by which all forces are made. A society living by Love is clean and needs no laws because no crime is being committed. Things can be solved without a whacky "injustice system" just as easy as it is to say "I love you." Remember who you are, get involved and PLEASE live life with love so people don't have to conflict. Justice doesn't exsist because it is truthfull against itself. Love is the key.

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Re: Justice is Injustice [Re: MAGnum]
    #3793574 - 02/17/05 03:49 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

We knoooooww already.

"Love is the key."


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Re: Justice is Injustice [Re: Freeker]
    #3793650 - 02/17/05 04:05 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

"Tell the queen of diamonds about the way she shines"


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Re: Justice is Injustice [Re: MAGnum]
    #3793675 - 02/17/05 04:11 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Justice is a flaw. The fact that lady justice is blind shows ignorance. Justice is to believe that if one does harm or does wrong that the society the live in as a whole has (or ones they live with have) the right to seek vengence to harm the accused perpetraitor(s) of an act of harm. Does this really make sence?

Personally, I see it as a matter of keeping dangerous people isolated from others to prevent them from doing more harm. Also, while prison doesn't deter everyone, there are probably lots of people who might be more inclined to cause harm someone else if there were no legal consequences.

Doesn't Justice harm as much as the previous injustice, thus the rituals acted out to accomplish both the innicial injustice and "finnishing" justice the same thing? Are they not both wrong?

No. The person causing harm is the initiator of force, and it is right to respond to that with whatever force is necessary to stop them.

In the society I live in (America), to say justice is good is to say that the ritual of society harming people as an enigma is good.

It is society protecting itself with necessary force. I don't get why you don't see the need for protection.

This is directly false and the deffinition of justice falls apart when compaired to injustice. What about the justice system and laws? Well they are all bad things because they cause harm and they don't show any love at all.

You can take your hippy bullshit about love and shove it up your ass. If someone I know is being attacked, loving the attacker won't stop them, but a 9mm bullet to the head sure will.

How many criminals come out of jail reformed?

Depends what you mean by "reformed." Some are first-time offenders who didn't think they'd get caught, and now that they have, they know better. My uncle did a year and a half for meth, and he hasn't touched the stuff since then.

How many commit worse and worse offences after being released?

Some do, which is why repeat offenders deserve harsher sentences. Those that can't learn to respect the rights of others shouldn't get the chance to commit those crimes.

To put people in jail is litterally to put them in an institution full of uncontrolled violence, rape theft, abuse and even murder to be realeased again.

There are indeed many flaws in our prison system, but this doesn't negate the purpose of prisons. It merely hilights the need for reform.

Does anyone really believe that a person who has gone through this horribly corrupt rehabillitation system has actually been rehabillitated?

See the example I gave about my uncle.

Just because society works as an enigma doesn't mean it doesn't have a face and a name built up of all the individual faces and names of the society itself. So for a society to act within the ritual of justice unstopped is for every individual to be committing injustice as an enigma called "the system."

Individuals who are being attacked has the right to defend themselves, but they may not be able to, so we defer power to the law to be able to protect us. Protection and self-defense are not unjust.

Someone gets put in jail for smoking pot only to get tormented. They come out angrier and having more of a chip on thier shoulder against society and a training from other inmates on how to commit crimes rather than rehabillitation.

I don't think you'll find anyone here arguing in favor of the Drug War. It's precisely because of the Drug War that our prisons are overcrowded and dangerous criminals are getting out early. If we legalized drugs, we could use prisons for the violent criminals who deserve to be there, and with the reduced prison population, could more easily control the violence that goes on in there.

Then how is it not understandable that the person commits felonies and worce crimes not only because they have been taught how withing the system, but because they want justice against the system that has caused them so much injustice.

My uncle went to prison on a drug charge. He came out sober and has not (to my knowledge) committed any crimes since then. Is he the exception or the rule?

Do you see how it goes now? One guy says screw him, the other guys says screw you back. The first guy goes and hits him, the other guy hits back. By the end of this insane ritual we have a full strait up brawl between the malcontents of society who have been trampled on and the law enforcers who are supposed to represent us all.

Most people recognize that you can't beat the law. If someone commits a crime, it's usually done with the assumption that they won't get caught. So getting caught is a good wakeup call for them.

The biggest problem is that NO ONE WANTS ANY OF THIS! Not the cops, society or the criminals. If everone would live in Love, we would have no problems with breaking crimes.

If everyone would live in love, these crimes would not exist in the first place. Again, take all your hippy lovey-dovey crap and shove it, cuz that's not how the real world works. The world is a dangerous place, and sometimes force needs to be met with force.

Stupid laws wouldn't even be made and real laws would hold no neccessity. Honestly, when things do fall apart, we all have Love as the strongest and most basic force there is to fall back on. Since it is the most basic force, it is the most abundant by which all forces are made. A society living by Love is clean and needs no laws because no crime is being committed. Things can be solved without a whacky "injustice system" just as easy as it is to say "I love you." Remember who you are, get involved and PLEASE live life with love so people don't have to conflict. Justice doesn't exsist because it is truthfull against itself. Love is the key.

You are living in a complete fantasy. The fact is that not everyone is willing to love their neighbor, and that will always be the case so long as human nature exists. Sure, it'd be nice if people just got along, but the very existence of the justice system is a recognition that the world does not work that way.

John Lennon once said, "All You Need Is Love." Then he got shot dead by one of his fans. I guess he was wrong.


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Re: Justice is Injustice [Re: Silversoul]
    #3794318 - 02/17/05 06:38 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

All you need is love, if the world is too proud to accept and transcend the fact that they are ignorant in thinking that love isn't enough, the world will fall.

I am not a hippy by the way, but I do plan on growing my hair long and inciting people to love.


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Re: Justice is Injustice [Re: MAGnum]
    #3795259 - 02/17/05 10:20 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Love is great, but when other people are violent towards us, simply loving them will do nothing to protect us.


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Re: Justice is Injustice [Re: MAGnum]
    #3795320 - 02/17/05 10:33 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)


All you need is love

Love won't get you very far when someone comes along, fucks with you, and takes your stuff.


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Re: Justice is Injustice [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3795895 - 02/17/05 11:57 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

If you are slick with it, your enemy who comes at you with belligerance can be turned away with simply the correctly chosen, loving words.

If someone steals a dollar from you, give them two dollars. Chances are that they need it more than you. Attachment to material things is empty anyways.

There are multitudes of options rather than vengance, but vengance is always bad. No matter how much venom someone might spit, don't spit back because it only leads to biting.


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Re: Justice is Injustice [Re: MAGnum]
    #3795928 - 02/18/05 12:01 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Is this a blatant troll?


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