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 Artificially introducing mushrooms to a field. 
#3791879 - 02/17/05 06:35 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well, I have a friend with a few fields and cattle. I was pondering the other day on how mushrooms are populated in the wild, and unless I'm mistaken, a primary means of mycelium transfer to new locations involves cattle eating the mushrooms and shitting out the mycelium and spores at a new location. So, I had a thought. Would it be possible to introduce a new species of shroom to these fields by feeding the cattle colonized birdseed by mixing it into their feed? Anyone ever tried this before? I've checked the feed, and it contains no fungicides and little salt, so assuming the mycelium can survive the digestion process of the cattle, it should work, right? It's like artificial insemination of the field with a choice species of mushroom. Tell me what you all think.
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Re: Artificially introducing mushrooms to a field. [Re: PorchMonkey321]
#3792070 - 02/17/05 08:43 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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i am also instrested in hearing an answer to this question...i have often wondered as well...we've made outdoor patches with colonized grains, then putting them in with woodchips..didn't think it would work but it did, try just going around and putting the grain on the patties...or under them...it might work..dunno
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Re: Artificially introducing mushrooms to a field. [Re: Silent_Echo]
#3793434 - 02/17/05 03:08 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Artificially introducing mushrooms to a field. [Re: PorchMonkey321]
#3793446 - 02/17/05 03:12 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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i really don't know the answer to this, but i'll venture a guess that the 4 stomachs that cows have would kill the mycellium... spores may survive because it takes time for germination of the spore... just a guess though, anyone with factual insight?
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Re: Artificially introducing mushrooms to a field. [Re: PorchMonkey321]
#3793455 - 02/17/05 03:15 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Im not sure of colonized seed but I know you can put spores in their food, also you can get a spore print and soak it in water then spread it over a heavily fertilized area like around feeding area, and allways make sure you feed cows hay grain fed produces a lot less shrooms and new grain usually has fungusides in it.
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Re: Artificially introducing mushrooms to a field. [Re: PorchMonkey321]
#3793460 - 02/17/05 03:16 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
PorchMonkey321 said:
unless I'm mistaken, a primary means of mycelium transfer to new locations involves cattle eating the mushrooms and shitting out the mycelium and spores at a new location.
I have never seen a cow eat a mushroom, I do know that spores stick to damp grass
and often times cows will eat that grass.
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Re: Artificially introducing mushrooms to a field. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#3793466 - 02/17/05 03:18 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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yes that is one way spores will also begin colonizing if spread on shit too
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Re: Artificially introducing mushrooms to a field. [Re: djsage420]
#3793475 - 02/17/05 03:20 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Once you have a few shrooms growing either leave them there or feed them to cows or beat the crap out of the caps on a breezy day to spread spores all over fields.
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Re: Artificially introducing mushrooms to a field. [Re: djsage420]
#3793870 - 02/17/05 05:09 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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the main way the spread is 2 or more spores land on a cow pie or cow pie enriched soil and grow , after thy fruit 10 kabillon spores are spread all over the field , county and the better part of the state, read in a book that many fungus spores can travel 1000s of miles in uper level winds over seas mountans ect, but anyway the spores land on the grass and ether get shit on or eaten and shit out, spores and many small seeds can and do survive digestion mycelia does not
don't feed cows mushrooms just save your gill shake from your bags and ether blow it out in a field or add it dry to there grain it thy are being feed grain too
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Re: Artificially introducing mushrooms to a field. [Re: PorchMonkey321]
#3816724 - 02/22/05 02:13 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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A cow would certainly destroy the mycelium in its stomach. I bet the spores land on the patties.
Why not take colonized rice, crumble it, and throwe a few kernals on each patty.
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Re: Artificially introducing mushrooms to a field. [Re: PorchMonkey321]
#3817113 - 02/22/05 04:00 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cows eat spores via the vegitation growing in the pasture. It is the cows stomache that germinates the spores, so when it's shit out it colonizes the shit and mushrooms grow, i imagine very very rarely does a spore float around and grow a mushroom that way. To intoduce mushrooms to a field you have to get the cows to eat the spores, via grain feeding is probly the must optimal way, then just check the cows pasture when the humidity and conditions are right for mushroom growth.
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Re: Artificially introducing mushrooms to a field. [Re: iluan]
#3817417 - 02/22/05 05:13 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've heard of feeding spore injected apples to horses....here's an idea:
Inject some hay with spores and feed it to cows!
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Re: Artificially introducing mushrooms to a field. [Re: kronnyQ]
#3825911 - 02/24/05 02:55 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, it's done, we spread colonized grain out under cow patties today, about a teaspoon under all the patties we could, which added up to maybe 1% of the field's surface area. Conditions were almost optimal, it rained this morning, just a tad on the cold side though. Used B+ in one area and Creeper in another. Great fields too, very heavily populated, very fertile ground, each patch was planted on the top of a hill for the best drainage and spore distribution. About how long do you guys think it will take to colonize and fruit, then to colonize other parts of the fields?
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Re: Artificially introducing mushrooms to a field. [Re: iluan]
#3825994 - 02/24/05 03:25 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
iluan said:
Cows eat spores via the vegitation growing in the pasture. It is the cows stomache that germinates the spores, so when it's shit out it colonizes the shit and mushrooms grow, i imagine very very rarely does a spore float around and grow a mushroom that way. To intoduce mushrooms to a field you have to get the cows to eat the spores, via grain feeding is probly the must optimal way, then just check the cows pasture when the humidity and conditions are right for mushroom growth.
the spores don't germinate in the stomache thy would die , spores will not germinate just because that are warm and wet thay can tell if conditions are right , other wise thay would germinate in the spore syringes, fresh cow shit will not grow miycillia ether it has to age mellow leach and become less acidic
remember cub-mushrooms are native to the amaricas cows arnt thay live before with out them no cow tummys needed
if the temp and rain hold out you may have mushrooms on 3 weeks or so all the rules on indoors still apply out side when it comes to light ,water and temp
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