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 NeedMoreSleep
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lol, I was smokin and shoulda refreshed my screen... 
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 Vertigo6911
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all i can think of is that ure using the wrong brf...
if it has preservatives and stuff it might not work...
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gsmith
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I've had a fishtank heater break on me midway through an incubation. Temps inside the TiT dropped from 85F to 67F overnight. It slowed it down a lot, even when I got a replacement and brought the temps back up. Took about a week to recover. Pain in the ass, not the end of the world. Consider using insulation around your incubator, it well help with the fluctuations. The heater also won't have to work as hard and will last longer. I used a big ass sleeping bag draped over my tub.
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licker
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 Re: I hate my jars!!!  [Re: gsmith]
#3792254 - 02/17/05 07:51 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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well being a human i sometimes make mistakes. i left my heater on and my incubation chmber got to 100 for about 4-5 hours. all jars made it.
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LengthyFellow
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Re: I hate my jars!!! [Re: licker]
#3794281 - 02/17/05 04:30 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Haha dont worry about it Sleep thanks for the backup
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NeedMoreSleep
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no prob man 
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Fungus_Farmer
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Quote:
Do not incubate your jars if you can't keep a constant temperature.
As if the temperatures stay constant without an incubator?
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Therefore, between a then and its matching else, there cannot be an if statement without an else. Statements must be distinguished between those that are matched and those that are unmatched, where unmatched statements are else-less ifs and all other statements are matched.
I wonder if that would make more sense if I was tripping when I read it.
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 Baby_Hitler
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Re: I hate my jars!!! [Re: Roadkill]
#3794782 - 02/17/05 06:23 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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In my experience badly incubated jars have a higher failure rate than non-incubated jars.
It's not a particularly good reason not to incubate, just don't do it badly and let them overheat too much.
I don't incubate simply because it's easier, and I'm never in a hurry. In fact I usually let my jars sit too long and overcolonize.
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p4kSouL
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i have 2 more syringes which I'm going to inject some more jars pretty soon. should i just let the jars sit without using a heating device? the temp would be around 60 degrees constantly. is that too low? how long does 60 degrees take to colonize?
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LengthyFellow
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Re: I hate my jars!!! [Re: p4kSouL]
#3795385 - 02/17/05 08:48 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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A long time. Plus your potency and yeild will be crap if anything. Do u have 25 bucks for 2 rubbermaids and a fishtank heater? Very simple and probably most effective homemade incubator:TiT (tub-in-tub) do a search for more info. Make one and get the jars in there asap
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kiss
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If your gonna build yourself an incubator, and throw in a heating rock, then take this advise before you do somethimg like that.
Build yourself one of these...
Very inexpensive, and you'll be able to do G2G transfers if you so desire? Don't waste the money on a heating rock only to waste the space inside your incubator with a rock  If ya wanna go that route, for the same amount money you should be able to pick-up a heating mat with a temp. control, and have your tub resting on that. Which is pretty much what you see above. My temp. NEVER goes above or below 82-86f. This is also taking into account the outside temps. Your average house with proper venting, cooling, and heating will be in the ranges of 65-73f. A rock is a total waste...unless you have one laying around?
As long as your good in your construction habits, then you can call this 100% sterile!
In fact I have a 100% colonized snadwich bag thats been sitting for about a week and half wide open in their. I've about 6 jars of G2G, ect. For a total cost of something like 15.00....minus the heating mat. Had that for a while now.
BTW you can pick them up at a pet store.
GL, and get your temp. on track.
Also someone had mentioned moisture might be your problem....I'd take that advise if I were you!
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LengthyFellow
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Re: I hate my jars!!! [Re: kiss]
#3796135 - 02/17/05 10:47 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is that a glove box or an incubator or both? Whats up w/ the pvc caps on the sides? Could you elaborate on the construction and function of this?
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NeedMoreSleep
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Re: I hate my jars!!! [Re: p4kSouL]
#3796614 - 02/18/05 12:14 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
shroommachine said:
Incubating jars is a waste of time. If it works, you save a week, if it dosen't, your fucked. Do not incubate your jars if you can't keep a constant temperature.
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Baby_Hitler said:
In my experience badly incubated jars have a higher failure rate than non-incubated jars.
sIt's not a particularly good reason not to incubate, just don't do it badly and let them overheat too much.
I don't incubate simply because it's easier, and I'm never in a hurry. In fact I usually let my jars it too long and overcolonize.
From the period of time that the jars were inoculated with spores , to being germinated, to the substrate eventually being fully colonized in mycellium, the jars are "incubating". An "incubator" simpy provides the optimal environment for jars that are "incubating". Simply put, build and use an incubator if you can keep conditions closer to optimal than just leaving them in ambient space (cabinet, closet, drawer, etc.). At either rate though, you're still incubating your jars...
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which we must fear most. And that is... the indifference of good men."
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p4kSouL
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Re: I hate my jars!!! [Re: kiss]
#3796725 - 02/18/05 12:46 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
kiss said:
If your gonna build yourself an incubator, and throw in a heating rock, then take this advise before you do somethimg like that.
Build yourself one of these...
Very inexpensive, and you'll be able to do G2G transfers if you so desire? Don't waste the money on a heating rock only to waste the space inside your incubator with a rock If ya wanna go that route, for the same amount money you should be able to pick-up a heating mat with a temp. control, and have your tub resting on that. Which is pretty much what you see above. My temp. NEVER goes above or below 82-86f. This is also taking into account the outside temps. Your average house with proper venting, cooling, and heating will be in the ranges of 65-73f. A rock is a total waste...unless you have one laying around?
As long as your good in your construction habits, then you can call this 100% sterile!
In fact I have a 100% colonized snadwich bag thats been sitting for about a week and half wide open in their. I've about 6 jars of G2G, ect. For a total cost of something like 15.00....minus the heating mat. Had that for a while now.
BTW you can pick them up at a pet store.
GL, and get your temp. on track.
Also someone had mentioned moisture might be your problem....I'd take that advise if I were you!
how to you make that incubator? I want something that doesnt take up alot of space.
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NeedMoreSleep
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Re: I hate my jars!!! [Re: p4kSouL]
#3796891 - 02/18/05 01:46 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do you have space for A rubbermaid tub, and an available electical outlet??? If so, do this... Its cheap, and there's a reason that its very popular
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which we must fear most. And that is... the indifference of good men."
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LengthyFellow
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Sleep have u ever let jars incubate at room temp? (70-75 degrees) It takes over a month, and from my experience gives very shitty yeilds and potency. Yes they are technically "incubating" if you define that as mycelium growth, but effective incubation needs to be heated.
Im sure you are aware of this, im just trying to make sure people dont think its effective to simply not incubate.
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LengthyFellow
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BTW, check the word "incubate" in a dictionary. It entails either "providing heat" or "providing optimal/specific conditions" for growth.
Again, i dont mean to sound arrogant or agressive, but bottom line, if you want good mushrooms you need to provide heat while the jars colonize.
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ZeroArmy27
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i especially liked the part of this thread where he suggested he STEAL something for his grow... and the part where they were talking about trading ratings.
the shroomery has gotten so funny lately!
honestly, built a PMP or something close like kiss did... and don't steal. incubation speeds up my time by 2-4 weeks.
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Baby_Hitler
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Re: I hate my jars!!! [Re: ZeroArmy27]
#3797506 - 02/18/05 07:50 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Except from the government.
`Cause that ain't stealing, that's reposessing.
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