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Invisiblep4kSouL
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I hate my jars!!!
    #3790326 - 02/16/05 07:04 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Its been about 16 days since i injected my jars and i still don't see fucking mycelium! this is my second attempt to grow. everything was sterilized correctly and cooled off. the only thing i can think of is i don't keep constant temperatures. its kinda random. I'm gone too much to adjust the temperatures. it sometimes changes to 87 to 65 and once in a wile it mite get to the lower 90s. I'm guessing this is the problem but I'm not sure. if i keep up these random temperature changes will they eventually not grow? will it effect the potency? help!


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OfflineChunkster
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Re: I hate my jars!!! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #3790373 - 02/16/05 07:10 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Where are you incubating them?


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Re: I hate my jars!!! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #3790406 - 02/16/05 07:17 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

What exactly are you using as a substrate?


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Invisiblep4kSouL
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Re: I hate my jars!!! [Re: Land_Crab]
    #3790415 - 02/16/05 07:20 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

brf tek im incubating them in a sterril plastic storage container using a heater.


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Re: I hate my jars!!! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #3790430 - 02/16/05 07:22 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Im going to use a heat rock i use for my lizard oyu can get them for like ten from petco or just steal one. it keeps a constent temp of 78
ShroomeroUno


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Invisiblep4kSouL
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Re: I hate my jars!!! [Re: ShroomeroUno]
    #3790466 - 02/16/05 07:27 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

whats a heat rock???


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Re: I hate my jars!!! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #3790473 - 02/16/05 07:28 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Its for lizards and reptiles.It says donot submerge in dirt or water but i do and it works.
ShroomeroUno


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Invisiblep4kSouL
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Re: I hate my jars!!! [Re: ShroomeroUno]
    #3790488 - 02/16/05 07:30 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

so its like a rock that gives out heat? so like you could just stick it in your incubation chanber and you woudnt need a heater?


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Re: I hate my jars!!! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #3790544 - 02/16/05 07:40 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

yea..


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Invisiblep4kSouL
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Re: I hate my jars!!! [Re: ShroomeroUno]
    #3790551 - 02/16/05 07:41 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

shittt were do u get them and how long do they last?


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Re: I hate my jars!!! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #3790566 - 02/16/05 07:44 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

for ever .petco, petsmart.
IF you like the info i am given you please rate me.
Thanks shroomeroUno


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Invisiblep4kSouL
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Re: I hate my jars!!! [Re: ShroomeroUno]
    #3790583 - 02/16/05 07:46 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

ok man ill rate you but can you rate me too somehow i only have 1 rating  :frown:


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Invisiblep4kSouL
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Re: I hate my jars!!! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #3790623 - 02/16/05 07:51 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

anyway does anyone know my question?


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Re: I hate my jars!!! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #3790696 - 02/16/05 08:01 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Fluctuating temperatures can slow growth considerably but should not stop it altogether.


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Re: I hate my jars!!! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #3790727 - 02/16/05 08:05 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Incubating jars is a waste of time. If it works, you save a week, if it dosen't, your fucked. Do not incubate your jars if you can't keep a constant temperature. If your temp was above 90 degrees for more than a few hours, then your spores probably died. Next time just keep your jars at room temp. If your jars are sterile, you can just inject them again.

Good Luck.


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Re: I hate my jars!!! [Re: shroommachine]
    #3790802 - 02/16/05 08:16 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

:rolleyes:


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Re: I hate my jars!!! [Re: shroommachine]
    #3790848 - 02/16/05 08:23 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

:rolleyes:


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Re: I hate my jars!!! [Re: shroommachine]
    #3791124 - 02/17/05 02:05 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

:rolleyes:

terrible advice!~


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Re: I hate my jars!!! [Re: shroommachine]
    #3791144 - 02/17/05 02:13 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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shroommachine said:
Incubating jars is a waste of time. If it works, you save a week, if it dosen't, your fucked. Do not incubate your jars if you can't keep a constant temperature. If your temp was above 90 degrees for more than a few hours, then your spores probably died. Next time just keep your jars at room temp. If your jars are sterile, you can just inject them again.

Good Luck.




uhhh what are you talking about? how is incubating a waste of time? Its not very hard or expensive to buy a fishtank heater (~$15) and two rubbermaids (MAYBE $10 for the two) and make a TiT. Before i made an incubator the jars took like 4-6 weeks to colonize...with a TiT its like 10-14 days. Plus jars that take that long to colonize usually produce shitty shrooms.

Also, Spores dont die at 90...i had some jars go up to 97 right after i first put em in, and eventually they showed some growth, even though it was stunted considerably. I think the death temp is more like 106


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Re: I hate my jars!!! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #3791205 - 02/17/05 02:25 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

btw, the reason this is bad advice is:

>>> Incubating jars is a waste of time. If it works, you save a week, if it dosen't, your fucked. Do not incubate your jars if you can't keep a constant temperature.

This makes absolutely no sense... are you actually using the fruits of your experience at the moment?  Because I'd seriously think about a hospital if you are...

>>>If your temp was above 90 degrees for more than a few hours, then your spores probably died.

Wrong again...  It is a fact that your spores will not die as a result of temps fluctuating into the 90's.  If I remember correctly (and you more experienced guy correct me if I'm wrong) spores die at around 106 F...

>>>If your jars are sterile, you can just inject them again.

Assuming your jars are still sterile, there are some factors that would advise against this.  Depending on the amount of moisture already in the substrate, and the amount of spore solution initially used, it is possible you'd have too much water in your jars, especially if only using half pints.  Its possible, but unadvisable...

BTW, I'm assuming you're completely new to this, so thats the reason I typed all that.  If I misjudged your experience, please take no offense.  And sorry for boring all you "experts" out there. :wink:

Later :stoned:


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