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Should I be cautious about psychadelics?
    #3790130 - 02/16/05 06:28 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I was just now thinking about this, reading about how psychadelics can bring out schizophrania and other mental disorders. I'm in pretty good mental health... but a couple years ago, there was an incident where I thouht I was going crazy. I don't really remember it that good, but here's that I can remember:

Two years ago, I was in a lock up facility for 45 days... and well the psychiatrist there perscribed me Zoloft and Seroquel. I think most of you know what Zoloft is, but Seroquel is a medicine used to treat schizophrania and in this case... anxiety. Well... I Zoloft in the morning, and Seroquel at 9:00 PM. I don't have depression, and I don't have anxiety either. The only reason they thought I had them is because my mom blabbered on about all these "symptoms" I've been having. Anyway... about an hour or so after I took Seroquel... that's when shit hit the fan. My room was dark, because it was bed time and they turned the lights off. In the almost pitch blackness... I could barely see, but if I stared at one place for more than a few seconds, there were "spots" everywhere. Everything didn't seem real and I couldn't really understand what was happening. My room mates said I was saying a lot of weird stuff... and they eventually called the staff. They took me outside of the room to lay on their couch so they could watch me. They said my eyes were so dialated you couldn't see my isis. Time seemed like it was speeding up and slowing down. When I woke up in the morning, for the first hour I couldn't even say anything logical. I remember saying something like... "it'd be funny if he hit his balls on the light switch". Whaaaat?

Anyway they took me off Seroquel and Zoloft the next day... but that just makes me wonder. The experience was highly psycological. My family doesn't have a history of mental disorders... but my mom tried acid once and she said "there were fireworks going off in her room scaring the shit out of her and she felt like her heart was going to explode". Apparently she had a bad trip and never tried it again. But reguarding what happened with the Seroquel... do you think I should be cautious with psychadelics?


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Re: Should I be cautious about psychadelics? [Re: deadmoap]
    #3790174 - 02/16/05 06:37 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

You should always be cautious with psychedelics. Alot is still unknown about these pharmaceuticals, so I wouldn't jump to any conclusions. I say if/when you do trip, do it in a good set and setting, start off with a low dose, and have at least one sober trip sitter around.

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Re: Should I be cautious about psychadelics? [Re: dblaney]
    #3790478 - 02/16/05 07:29 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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dblaney18 said:
You should always be cautious with psychedelics.




Definatly what he said. I consider myself pretty experienced and I'm still cautious. I can handle myself on large doses, but I still hate tripping around people that make me uncomfortable. And if your worried about your mental health, then you really dont want to trip. If you feel good about yourself and are secure with your life you should be fine though.


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Re: Should I be cautious about psychadelics? [Re: F0SS1L]
    #3790492 - 02/16/05 07:31 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Dotn do shrooms. IT does bring oput schizophrenia.


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Re: Should I be cautious about psychadelics? [Re: ShroomeroUno]
    #3790527 - 02/16/05 07:38 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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ShroomeroUno said:
Dotn do shrooms. IT does bring oput schizophrenia.




Not necessarily.


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Re: Should I be cautious about psychadelics? [Re: dblaney]
    #3790541 - 02/16/05 07:40 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Only if it was already there, it can bring it out... But so could any other intense emotional experience. It isn't anything about the mushrooms that bring it out, it's the intense emotional experience. Intense emotional experiences can happen WITHOUT mushrooms - agreed?


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Re: Should I be cautious about psychadelics? [Re: delta9]
    #3790668 - 02/16/05 07:58 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Very true.I read tho8ugh that shroom were neither emoitionally or chemically addicting.but i dotn think that is true.
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Re: Should I be cautious about psychadelics? [Re: ShroomeroUno]
    #3790953 - 02/16/05 08:42 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I swear, your title of "Quick Learner" must be in jest. Who said a damn thing about addiction?


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Re: Should I be cautious about psychadelics? [Re: ShroomeroUno]
    #3790957 - 02/16/05 08:43 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

They are not addictive. First off they build up a tolerance really fast, so you won't be able to get off after a little bit. Second of all, they are not psychologically addictive either, you may want to do them a lot, or think about doing them a lot......but that's a far cry from a true addiction. Delta9 & Dblaney18 are right on.


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Re: Should I be cautious about psychadelics? [Re: Dark_Star]
    #3791334 - 02/17/05 02:57 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Cautious isn't the word I would use. It implies something sinister that
doesn't necessarily exist.

Careful, mindful, deliberate... but light hearted.


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Re: Should I be cautious about psychadelics? [Re: BloodNOil]
    #3791771 - 02/17/05 05:28 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I have an important question please help. Can mushrooms
be detected in a drug piss test??


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Re: Should I be cautious about psychadelics? [Re: hippyqueen]
    #3791884 - 02/17/05 06:38 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

um maybe but they don't check for them usually unless they have a specific reason for doing so - if you've been acting 'funny' lately.
Also Im pretty sure drugs like psilocybin and lsd are out of your system rather quick (much quicker than weed anyway)


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Re: Should I be cautious about psychadelics? [Re: el_duderino]
    #3791960 - 02/17/05 07:23 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Not unless someone specifically asks to have you tested, it costs upwards of 2-300 USDollars per test. Mushroom metabolites are out of your system within 3-4 days as well.

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Re: Should I be cautious about psychadelics? [Re: dblaney]
    #3792533 - 02/17/05 11:19 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

It's analogy time! MY favorite time of the day! Today's episode, "Swimming and Shrooms."

For this episode of anaolgy, we're going to visit our good friend the water. As in water in a pool, or a lake, or an ocean. For all intensive purposes, swiming water.

Now, I would imagine anyone with concern for their own safety wouldn't just run and jump into the water without having the ablity to swim... or at least float. If you know how to swim and are confident in your ablility... go ahead, knock yourself out and make a big splash. But if you're not confident in your ablitiy you may want to walk in from the shallow end, slowly, and with someone who you know knows how to swim.

It's ok, you don't have to learn how to swim all in one day. If you want, you can just stay knee deep untill you feel comfortable to go deeper.

Don't let the possiblity of drowning discourage you. Even the most experienced swimmers can drown and more people drown in shallow water then deeper water. (but that's more of a real life problem, not so much of analogy thing... none-the-less, it might be something to consider). If you're cautious and are aware of your surroundings, then then chances of something bad happening decrease dramatically.

The point of the whole outting is just to have fun. Splash, play, swim, dive, etc., have a great time. If you spend the time freaking out about what might go wrong, then I doubt your time in the water will be any fun. But it is wise to be cautious. Don't go deeper then you're comfortable with. Stay close to people who know how to swim. Patiently test yourself... gain confidence. Realize that even though the possiblty of drowning is there, you can hold trust in yourself you're not going to let that happen. You didn't go swimming to be scared now, did you? Nah, you came to have some fun.

Thanking for reading today's episode in analogy. If you didn't know what the analogy was referring to, then delete your membership at the Shroomery and go join HowToSwim.com. I hear they have an excelent online community, and oddly enough, a great analogy for swimming.... something about comparing it to a shroom trip. Hmmmm. . . That sound interesting.

Tune in tomorrow for my next episode of analogy. "Struggling Against The Current."


Disclaimer: The views that have been experessed in this analogy do not necessarily repesent or reflect the views of water. Swimming and mushrooms have no known relationship other than personal experience only. Swimming is not a recommended activity while on a trip. You should wait 30 minutes to swim after a meal... 45 mins if the meal includes mushrooms. Djd586 should be considered a moron and everyone who reads his posts should consider the post null and void of any legitimacy. This episode of "Swimming and Shrooms" is a trademark of the underpants gnomes. The underpants gonmes have no affiliation with djd586.
Remember to always be resposible. Know your drug. Know how the drug affects your body. Have fun and be safe!


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Re: Should I be cautious about psychadelics? [Re: deadmoap]
    #3794003 - 02/17/05 05:37 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

You seem to have just had a really intense reaction to Seroquel. Just because you don't have a good time with a pill doctors put you on doesn't mean you are crazy. Pills make people do crazy things.

Shallow steps seems to be what you need.


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Re: Should I be cautious about psychadelics? [Re: mecreateme]
    #3794025 - 02/17/05 05:41 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Cautious about psychedelics? Hm...well, you might believe your dead or crazy, or exploding, or do something socially unexceptable, or have a spiritual experience..but I don't see any reason to be cautious.


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Re: Should I be cautious about psychadelics? [Re: deadmoap]
    #3794550 - 02/17/05 07:18 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

If you have been mentally stable for two years now I wouldn't worry about it. I've been on both Zoloft and Seroquel (and a shit load of other ones) but I've been off meds for about 5 months now. It's all about you man, if you have a bad feeling about it, don't. But don't rush into it either. Research research research...


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Re: Should I be cautious about psychadelics? [Re: djd586]
    #3802795 - 02/19/05 10:47 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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...and go join HowToSwim.com. I hear they have an excelent online community, and oddly enough, a great analogy for swimming.... something about comparing it to a shroom trip. Hmmmm. . . That sound interesting. 




Haha you crack me up! great Analogy. I can't wait for tommorows' episode!

quick question. What happens when you dive into the water thinking you can swim but then once you dive into deeper water than you have haver swum in - You realise your whole concept of swimming and this 'water' you are in is totally meaningless!- I was never scared though :wink:

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