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OfflineNextKind
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Highest yielding strain exist?
    #3785885 - 02/15/05 10:51 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Is there actually a cube strain that typically yields much higher than other cubes, or is it all in the conditions they're grown


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Re: Highest yielding strain exist? [Re: NextKind]
    #3785912 - 02/15/05 10:54 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

the answer would be no, its all about the tek


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Re: Highest yielding strain exist? [Re: Mycelium5150]
    #3785962 - 02/15/05 10:59 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

If there was one superior strain, we would all be growing it.


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Re: Highest yielding strain exist? [Re: ticktock]
    #3785989 - 02/15/05 11:02 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, yeah, ok.


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Re: Highest yielding strain exist? [Re: NextKind]
    #3786298 - 02/15/05 11:46 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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NextKind said:
Is there actually a cube strain that typically yields much higher than other cubes, or is it all in the conditions they're grown




Yes, South Americans typically yield higher than most other cubensis strains. In my friends experience.



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Re: Highest yielding strain exist? [Re: boxtop703]
    #3786357 - 02/15/05 11:55 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

i thought south americans was a strain of psilocybe cubensis, boxtop?


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Re: Highest yielding strain exist? [Re: 4hodmt]
    #3786372 - 02/15/05 11:57 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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i thought south americans was a strain of psilocybe cubensis, boxtop?




Thats what the poster asked about.

Theres no "best" strain. All will eild different things for different people in different conditions.


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Re: Highest yielding strain exist? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3786432 - 02/16/05 12:06 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

well, yield could mean different things: total dry weight or total alkaloids?

Total alkaloids would be Azures.


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Re: Highest yielding strain exist? [Re: chocbruce]
    #3786452 - 02/16/05 12:11 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Do you really think we're talking about alkaloids here, or did you just want to throw that in for fun?  :argh:


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Re: Highest yielding strain exist? [Re: chocbruce]
    #3786455 - 02/16/05 12:12 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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chocbruce said:
well, yield could mean different things: total dry weight or total alkaloids?

Total alkaloids would be Azures.




No it cant. Total yeild is total weight. Potency is the word for the amount of alkaloids.


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Re: Highest yielding strain exist? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3786705 - 02/16/05 12:55 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

A better question is: Which strain is the most contam resistant and colonizes the fastest. Therefore, more fruits in a shorter amount of time. I like Thailands, B+ for sure.


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Re: Highest yielding strain exist? [Re: encryptor]
    #3786720 - 02/16/05 12:58 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

oh come on that shit is redundant...what would be better, 5 grams per cake of azurescens, or 5 grams of a cubensis?


exactly.


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Re: Highest yielding strain exist? [Re: SHiZNO]
    #3786751 - 02/16/05 01:02 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

shizno, wtf are you talking about?


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Re: Highest yielding strain exist? [Re: derx]
    #3786850 - 02/16/05 01:15 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

the weight vs potency thing. :shrug:


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Re: Highest yielding strain exist? [Re: derx]
    #3786884 - 02/16/05 01:21 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

People people. Different strains have developed because of self-adapting DNA. The mushroom adapts to its environment, and changes accordingly. Hence collections of cubies in different parts of the world.

Notice, different strains having different characteristics that respond better/worse to so and so substrate, further complicated by so and so substrate with so and so environmental conditions, including natural breezed, humidity levels, stable regime of light and tempurature...etc...etc...

The point we are trying to make is that say for myself, on BRF/verm/WBS/Straw/manure/corn/beans/millet/agar/kar/whateverthefuckyouwant, strain A will yield so and so potency/weight...and strain B will yield so and so potency/weight...

You know what that means for you? Jack shit because there is no way you are going to reproduce my exact environment...even if you follow my instructions to the T, your timing won't even be the same as related to tempuratures, light, humidity, water content, water type, etc etc etc etc etc... you will therefore have TOTALLY different findings on strain A/B..

Damn. FOR OUR PURPOSES, A cube is a cube is a cube folks - u gotta try em all to see what works best for you...



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Re: Highest yielding strain exist? [Re: SHiZNO]
    #3786913 - 02/16/05 01:25 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

SHiZNO said:
oh come on that shit is redundant...what would be better, 5 grams per cake of azurescens, or 5 grams of a cubensis?


exactly.




you cant grow azures on cakes d00d and the oreginal poster asked about STRAIN of CUBENSIS not SPICIES


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Re: Highest yielding strain exist? [Re: onetime]
    #3786971 - 02/16/05 01:33 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

thats why I asked him what he was talking about because this topic is regardling P. cubensis.


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Re: Highest yielding strain exist? [Re: SHiZNO]
    #3787780 - 02/16/05 03:48 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

SHiZNO said:
oh come on that shit is redundant...what would be better, 5 grams per cake of azurescens, or 5 grams of a cubensis?


exactly.




What are you talking about? I'd love to see you pull ANY grams of Azures off a cake. Besides that, were still talking cubensis. And besides all that THE QUESTION IS NOT WHATS BETTER, ITS NOT WHATS MORE POTENT, its about high YEILDING strains, which can only mean one thing...WEIGHT. If you did want to talk Azures or other exotics, the yeild will be much less for the substrate compared to cubie yields, even though the potency would be higher.

I've gotten my best yeilds from Z's and Amazons. Like I said before though, not everyones the same..


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Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Highest yielding strain exist? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3787803 - 02/16/05 03:58 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

well a cube may be a cube but i have seen some big diff in various sub strains in my dealings i found gulf coast to be one of the slower with linear or cottony mycelia and Ecuadoran to be one of the fastest with rhizomorph or rope like mycelia

also how easy it is to pick is importan if it clengs to the casing layer like a fat man to the buffet when you pick there will be bog holes to patch that will be a vector of contamation and lower pin on folowing flushes

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Re: Highest yielding strain exist? [Re: Dem_Bones]
    #3787831 - 02/16/05 04:06 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

A cube isnt a cube. As you said, strains have differences. The thing is...IN YOUR DEALINGS were the key words above..if I were to grow the same two strains I could get complete opposite results. Not only because I'm sure I use a different substrate and method and have different conditions but because our spores will probably be from different places as well. Thats why, although yeild will vary from cube to cube so a cube isnt a cube, there is no straight foward highest yeilder, or quickest, or easiest pinner because it will change for everyone.

I suggest trying out a number of strains and going with what works for you but relize that everyone else who grows the same strain will probably get different results.


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