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Offlinecall_me_kido
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Re: introducing the 'heatbomb' [Re: Heffy] * 1
    #3327096 - 11/06/04 08:53 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Did you happen to notice colonization occuring closer to the heat source or was it even? The idea behind TiT is surround your jars with a heat source from an even angle. Ive also heard disclaimers about putting a heat source directly in with your jars such as a space heater. In your experience how was the colonization?

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Re: introducing the 'heatbomb' [Re: call_me_kido] * 1
    #3327166 - 11/06/04 09:30 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Damn what a great idea. Sobe bottle + water + aquarium heater + incubator = lots of mycs


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Re: introducing the 'heatbomb' [Re: call_me_kido] * 1
    #3327214 - 11/06/04 09:55 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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call_me_kido said:
Did you happen to notice colonization occuring closer to the heat source or was it even?
In your experience how was the colonization




i indeed get faster colonisation in jars closer to the bomb.
i am happy with it, it serves its purpose well.

peace ohm :mushroom2:


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Re: introducing the 'heatbomb' [Re: ohmatic] * 1
    #3332227 - 11/08/04 04:17 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

hey!

first of all, im glad that some ppl are actually using this tek,
furthermore, archiving good results using it ! :laugh:

concering all the chatter going on about a glass or a pvc bottle,
ill quote anno's statement he gave on that topic.

Quote:

Well...

Glass has a thermal conductivity of ~ 1 W / m K.

PET( Polyethylene terephthalate, the material the plactic bottles here are made of) has a thermal conductivity of ~ 0.3 W / m K.

Taking into account that the wall of a glass bottle is much thicker, the end heating result will be roughly the same.




this tek was also designed to be run from PVC bottles and it works
like a charm, NO NEED for glass bottles to make that clear.
all this glas chatter may have distracted some ppl from actually building
themself a heatbomb, believe me, i use the same pvc bottle i used when i
initially constructed it, and it works supremely well!
peace ohm :mushroom2:


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Re: introducing the 'heatbomb' [Re: ohmatic] * 1
    #3412402 - 11/26/04 01:01 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

*kicks heatbomb back into peoples' minds*
peace ohm :mushroom2:


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Re: introducing the 'heatbomb' [Re: ohmatic] * 1
    #3412847 - 11/26/04 03:41 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Do you have to keep space between the heat bomb and the jars so they don't dry out? or can you pack them all around it?


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Re: introducing the 'heatbomb' [Re: ohmatic] * 1
    #3413123 - 11/26/04 05:04 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I have a TIT, without decent lids so humid is coming up from watertub and RH in incubation tub is rather high with waterdrops on "ceiling".

What I like about your method is that it is DRY.

BUT the advantage of a TIT is there is more heating volume, coming from all sides.

So me wanting a dry TIT me gonna watch for some tubs with decent LIDS on it!

For a small incubation setup your heatbomb must be very cool, only need one tub also. If one puts it in a isolated coolbox one should have a great incubator.


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Re: introducing the 'heatbomb' [Re: MushroomFriend] * 1
    #3413510 - 11/26/04 06:52 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Too bad that idea doesnt work as well as everyone thinks it would.

The jars in the middle get hot and the jars by the edge of the tub get cold. edit: now that i read the tek again it is noted that its only best for a small space, keyword, small. It does leave the incubator dry though.

as said, this idea simply doesnt compare to a TiT, not really even close. Even if one wraps the hell out of the whole tub in blankets you will not get an even heat.

Stick with the TiT, there's a reason it's called the best.


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Re: introducing the 'heatbomb' [Re: sublimesubmind] * 1
    #3415071 - 11/27/04 03:56 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Thats why I said its maybe in a smaller well isolated environment when more even temperature can establish.
But, it is like a poor mans tit.. :P (you only buy one tub) :grin:


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Re: introducing the 'heatbomb' [Re: sublimesubmind] * 1
    #3415093 - 11/27/04 04:22 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

sublimesubmind said:
edit:  now that i read the tek again it is noted that its only best for a small space, keyword, small.  It does leave the incubator dry though. 




well thats what it was written for,
small, low scale incubation, believe me its the bomb!

just take a look at the provided pics,
thats a small space and low scale incubator,
all jars, regardless of being in the middle of the edge were done within
a couple of days.

<3 heatbomb.

:smile:
peace ohm


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Re: introducing the 'heatbomb' [Re: ohmatic] * 1
    #3471510 - 12/09/04 03:52 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

My cat made something similar, only he used a big glass jar which was formerly a candy dish. It was about 8 inches high, and had a diameter of about 6 inches It worked very well!


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Re: introducing the 'heatbomb' [Re: Le_Canard] * 1
    #3482282 - 12/11/04 03:35 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

*bump*

the heatbomb needs to be spread among newbies who want to do small scale
incubation since this is what it was designed for.
peace ohm :mushroom2:


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Re: introducing the 'heatbomb' [Re: ohmatic] * 1
    #3639228 - 01/17/05 01:41 PM (19 years, 14 days ago)

thx a lot man :smile:  This is gonna work great for me.  I'm gonna use my pmp as an inc until they're colonized.


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Re: introducing the 'heatbomb' [Re: illahee] * 1
    #3775105 - 02/13/05 05:17 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: introducing the 'heatbomb' [Re: Cookies] * 1
    #3775121 - 02/13/05 05:19 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

i had one of those goin last year, but didnt get the silicone, and so it leaked humidity EVERYWHERE! i was too lazy.

heres my version:




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Re: introducing the 'heatbomb' [Re: Yarry] * 1
    #3776963 - 02/14/05 12:31 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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YarryShroomer said:
i had one of those goin last year, but didnt get the silicone, and so it leaked humidity EVERYWHERE! i was too lazy.





thats why i made up the heatbomb, the leakage was a unbearable problem for me aswell.
the heatbomb itself is completely waterproof self contained system.
peace ohm :mushroom2:


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Re: introducing the 'heatbomb' [Re: ohmatic] * 1
    #3777141 - 02/14/05 01:39 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

considering the heat conductivity, doesent it just mean that one will war up slower then the other?
wont they ultimatly reach the same max temp after enuff time has passed?

whats the wattage of that heater?

does your heater have a notice in the manual that says it needs to stay verticle? mine does but im wondering since ive seen no1 else gie a crap about that...

comparted to a TIT, is it realy that different?
seems to me like most of the effect comes from heating the air inside the container as opposed to direct radiation...

oh yeah hows about using hot glue instead of silicone?


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Re: introducing the 'heatbomb' [Re: Vertigo6911] * 1
    #3777146 - 02/14/05 01:42 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Vertigo6911 said:
considering the heat conductivity, doesent it just mean that one will war up slower then the other?
wont they ultimatly reach the same max temp after enuff time has passed?

whats the wattage of that heater?

does your heater have a notice in the manual that says it needs to stay verticle? mine does but im wondering since ive seen no1 else gie a crap about that...

comparted to a TIT, is it realy that different?
seems to me like most of the effect comes from heating the air inside the container as opposed to direct radiation...




as said, this is no replacement to a tit but meant for SMALL SCALE INCUBATION.
it provides adequate incubation temps if you place it between
6 jahrs to each side, but that would be the top number id go with the heatbomb.

a tit will provide equal heat from 5 sides, unlike the heatbomb,
and i just have to keep my heater submerged - inside the bottle
this is the case all the time anyway.




it works awesome, oh thats a 75watt heater btw.
peace ohm :mushroom2:


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Re: introducing the 'heatbomb' [Re: ohmatic] * 1
    #3777249 - 02/14/05 02:38 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

this was used alot before the tek, although something new ive seen in this 'tek' is the use of a water bottle, seems to support more of the aquarium heater, with less water, sometimes people had to lean the heater to cover the whole heating-unit. very nice method overall though.
-Victor


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Re: introducing the 'heatbomb' [Re: Victor] * 1
    #6605788 - 02/24/07 02:18 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

"Where can you buy a glass bottle nowadays? Foaf went looking for one to make something like this, but every single container he found at the grocery store, carrying any kind of liquid, were all plastic. "

SOBE bottles, any glass drink bottle, or if you dont wanna worry about a snug fit, then get a container for pizza sauce...just some ideas ill post some pics of my dogs heat bomb/incubator when he get a chance to take pics...

basically he used a microwave/dishwasher safe sports waterbottle, heater, and a lit from a bigger koolaid jug type bottle...the big one was too tall for my dogs incubating chamber (considering he is using a large thermal lunchbox) its small but perfect for my dogs stealth grow


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