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OfflineJCoke
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does anyone here believe in hate?
    #3772327 - 02/13/05 12:16 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

is it ever appropiate? a time? a place?

do you hate peoples oppinions?

there ideas?

people that post on this board, there ideas vary greatly, is it safe to say your ok with them all?

are we all friends here no matter what are views are? or is there anyone excluded?

personnally, i'm happy for everyone here, i would eat dinner, hang out, go see a movie, have a few beers, share my weed for free, with everyone here, EVERYONE! even though I never met any of you, do you all feel the same way I do?

were all hippies to some degree here, right? so we would never kill/hurt anyone right?

sorry, i really feel like sharing some love, just thought the thought that I love you uncondintionally would cheer you all up.

thank you.

i'll stop rambling now.


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OfflineShroomeroUno
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Re: does anyone here believe in hate? [Re: JCoke]
    #3772410 - 02/13/05 12:55 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

At times ive wanted to believe in hate because of the circumstances.But when it comes down to it you are only hurting your self if you hate.


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Invisibleninjapixie
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Re: does anyone here believe in hate? [Re: JCoke]
    #3772445 - 02/13/05 01:08 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Hate sucks. I hate it.

I also hate that little green pixie that won't stop tickling me.


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OfflineGomp
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Re: does anyone here believe in hate? [Re: ninjapixie]
    #3772545 - 02/13/05 01:39 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I hate hating hate.. so i love it.. :P


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Re: does anyone here believe in hate? [Re: JCoke]
    #3772550 - 02/13/05 01:43 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I brought up this question before, and I ended up changing my position on it. I think it's perfectly ok to hate intolerance, suffering, and all the other evils that exist in our world. But try not to hate the people committing those evils. Most of them do not know what they're doing.


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OfflineShroomeroUno
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Re: does anyone here believe in hate? [Re: Silversoul]
    #3772632 - 02/13/05 02:12 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

How do they not? If you are doing somehting that is bad ,you know it will effect someone in a bad way. What you do doesnt only effect you


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OfflineJCoke
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Re: does anyone here believe in hate? [Re: ShroomeroUno]
    #3772719 - 02/13/05 02:37 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

ShroomeroUno said:
How do they not? If you are doing somehting that is bad ,you know it will effect someone in a bad way. What you do doesnt only effect you




everyone SHOULD know it, but people can be so dull, there so blinded by there hate that they can't even see it, you should'nt hate someone for not knowing something.

or something like that. :shrug:


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Re: does anyone here believe in hate? [Re: JCoke]
    #3772874 - 02/13/05 03:43 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

sure


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Re: does anyone here believe in hate? [Re: SHiZNO]
    #3772926 - 02/13/05 04:04 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

To hate is to wish or will something into inexsistance.

To find a place for hate, you would have to show where in all of exsistance there is a place for inexsistance.

Since there is none, there is no place for hate; Hate itself is a lie and doesn't stand. How can you wish into inexsistance when inexsistance doesn't exsist?

I like Love alot better anyways, since it is easy and nescessary to wish or will into exsistance into exsistance.


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Re: does anyone here believe in hate? [Re: MAGnum]
    #3772929 - 02/13/05 04:07 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

so would you love someone that came and murdered your entire family? how can love exist without hate? going by that theory isnt love a lie?


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Re: does anyone here believe in hate? [Re: SHiZNO]
    #3773199 - 02/13/05 06:42 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Isnt hate a lie? For years i was perplexed when people said "I hate myself" i always wondered how that could be possible, now i just tend to think that what they mean is "I love myself too much!"


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Re: does anyone here believe in hate? [Re: JCoke]
    #3773456 - 02/13/05 09:16 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Hate exists an emotion, a chemical alteration within the brain.

Thought process alters emotion.

So are the thought processes correct? Not nessacerily! I view hate as a nessacery and unnessacery fragment of the mind.

At an animal level. I think it would be nessacery to hate, for instance, the bully of the group because you know it could threaten your survival. At our levels of logic/intelligence, I don't think hate is nessacery any more.

I like to try and take an objective view of emotions, I can recover quicker. I wish I was *enlightened* then I would see the emotion for what it was before it even arised!


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Re: does anyone here believe in hate? [Re: Sinbad]
    #3773458 - 02/13/05 09:19 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

A human can kill someone, see his deed with his eyes, hear the screem with his ears, know the meaning of it in his mind, he can touch his blood and know how many are suffering, even understand suffering, yet still not know what he has done.

Really KNOWING what you have done would drive you crazy. The most coldblooder killer would cry like a baby if he really knew what was done to his victims.

Sensory data speaks nothing of someones deed.
If you could expand your consciousness and feel what kind of trace your deed has done in the human collective, then you would know it.
Some people don't have this ability, some have it partially.

if we had telepathy as a natural ability, any crime and hate would be eraced because one mans pain would be the pain of the whole collective. It is like that today too, but many of us do not have the consciousness wide enough to detect it.


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Re: does anyone here believe in hate? [Re: Ego Death]
    #3773461 - 02/13/05 09:22 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Anger is an emotion, hate is what triggers anger. Hate is a form of mental conditioning. You chose to hate, and your choice triggers all kinds of destructive emotions. Those emotions are inocent. It is what made them that is not inocent. Hate made them. It's like a self made demon in form of neural network connections.


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Re: does anyone here believe in hate? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #3773462 - 02/13/05 09:24 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I've met a sociopath. This one had no regard for hurting others, he takes pleasure from it. It is very sickening to me.


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Re: does anyone here believe in hate? [Re: Ego Death]
    #3773518 - 02/13/05 10:00 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

hate or repulsion or revulsion
falls into the 3 negative roots - it is the main one.
everything with hate as a root end up confused or poisoned.

in the mind one has the effectiveness of love and attraction or association;
also, there is release, and letting pass, or natural fading away.

hate is an attempt to accellerate the letting pass, or to push the fading away - it does not work

instead what is hated become more integral (more tightly associated)
hence the confused or poisoned nature of things with hate as root.
partly pullng away and intensely attracting at the same time like stepping in bubblegum.

all hate is love hate.
pure love is better, and letting go works, when it comes to letting nature take it's course - taking the undesired away.


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Re: does anyone here believe in hate? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3773542 - 02/13/05 10:16 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

redgreen,  HeeeHeee....  :tongue:
I really like that, and if I may,  ...shorten up the analogy a bit...?  :grin:

Hate is like your Brain Stepping in BubbleGum....?    :tongue2:  :heart:

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Re: does anyone here believe in hate? [Re: PhanTomCat]
    #3773553 - 02/13/05 10:25 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

One should not hate, for one has only been defeated.


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Re: does anyone here believe in hate? [Re: Droz]
    #3773618 - 02/13/05 11:09 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I share your unconditional love. Cheers. :smile:


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Re: does anyone here believe in hate? [Re: Droz]
    #3773636 - 02/13/05 11:17 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

:smile:


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