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Drug addicts turning to herbal highs
    #3772247 - 02/12/05 11:37 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Drug addicts turning to herbal highs
13 February 2005
news.independent.co.uk

Plans to outlaw magic mushrooms have raised fears of a surge in the use of potentially harmful hallucinogenic herbs and plants. Drugs experts are calling for these legal so-called herbal highs, now widely available on the internet and in high street shops, to carry clear warning labels because inexperienced users mistakenly believe they are safe.

These dried or powdered substances include salvia divinorum, a variety of sage which can be smoked. Salvia is not a controlled drug in Britain but has been banned in Italy, Denmark and Australia because it can leave users disoriented.

At the end of last year, the Government announced that hallucinogenic fungi would be treated as a class A drug such as heroin or cocaine, with harsh penalties for supplying or possessing them.

But these new laws do not extend to herbs such as salvia, which has now become one of the biggest sellers on the legal drugs market and is cheaper than some illegal drugs at between ?8 and ?25 a packet. Many of these "natural" drugs, now being sold on sites such as eBay, imitate illegal stimulants. For example, kratom resin, which has been banned in Thailand but is again widely available in this country, produces an effect similar to that of opiates.

However, the doses of these "alternatives" are often difficult to judge, resulting in lethal consequences. Angel's trumpet contains the chemical scopolamine which can cause unconsciousness and death. The plant, which grows in parks and gardens, is responsible for several deaths in the US where it is banned.

DrugScope, the harm reduction charity, said the clampdown on magic mushrooms will mean users will instead experiment with unfamiliar alternatives.

A spokeswomen said: "The change will mean people are going to move to herbal solutions. Any information regarding harm and understanding the risks has got to be a lot more effective than using criminal penalties."

One worrying new trend is young people mixing natural drugs with other substances such as amino acids to increase their high but with potentially dangerous side effects such as panic attacks and heart problems. Another concern is that the increasingly lucrative herbal high market may be taken over by gangs who do not care about quantity, dosage or the age of their customers.

Andrea Zangara, an expert in the side effects of drugs, has carried out a study into the use in Europe of legal and natural high-inducing substances and is planning a similar investigation in Britain. "There is a growing interest for a wide range of "smart drugs" [mood enhancing] and "legal highs" which are freely available in trendy shops," said Mr Zangara, a researcher in the Department of Human Cognitive Neuroscience at Northumbria University.

The current government strategy on drugs is targeted at illegal class A drugs. The Home Office said laws had been tightened up on magic mushrooms because its active ingredients are already classified as class A drugs under existing laws. A spokesman said that the Government would legislate on other substances only on the advice of the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs.


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Re: Drug addicts turning to herbal highs [Re: veggie]
    #3773477 - 02/13/05 09:37 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Many of these "natural" drugs, now being sold on sites such as eBay, imitate illegal stimulants. For example, kratom resin, which has been banned in Thailand but is again widely available in this country, produces an effect similar to that of opiates.

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Re: Drug addicts turning to herbal highs [Re: Wysefool]
    #3774068 - 02/13/05 02:25 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

WTF what? It is banned in Thailand and produces opiate like effects at certain dosages..

Still, fairly shite article in general. I mailed them to point out that people who use such plants/fungi etc aren't "drug addicts" and their inept reporters obviously didn't research it much.


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Re: Drug addicts turning to herbal highs [Re: Sorted]
    #3774089 - 02/13/05 02:32 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Don't bother, to the mainstream anyone who uses any illegal drug is an "addict"  :tongue:.


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Re: Drug addicts turning to herbal highs [Re: gdman]
    #3774272 - 02/13/05 03:21 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

This story is most definitely biased, calling magic mushroom users "drug addicts". I recall from a previous article, Chris Territt, one of the directors of The Psyche Deli, a company which distributes fresh magic mushrooms, saying "The people who are buying magic mushrooms these days are teachers, doctors, and lawyers."

The first sentence from this story above "Plans to outlaw magic mushrooms have raised fears of a surge in the use of potentially harmful hallucinogenic herbs and plants." is a perfect argument for NOT oulawing mushrooms.


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Re: Drug addicts turning to herbal highs [Re: veggie]
    #3777247 - 02/14/05 04:38 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

fucking bullshit articles...


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Re: Drug addicts turning to herbal highs [Re: Locus]
    #3778159 - 02/14/05 12:20 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Salvia... Lethal??????


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Re: Drug addicts turning to herbal highs [Re: blaze2]
    #3780407 - 02/14/05 09:54 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I just thought it was odd that they say the drugs are like legal stimulants, and then go on to say it's like an opiate.

I'm not sure, maybe it's both, but it seems like they're using a comparison to meth to make it seem like more of an evil epidemic.


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Re: Drug addicts turning to herbal highs [Re: Wysefool]
    #3834418 - 02/25/05 09:11 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

http://www.legalmarijuan <---- get herbal hydro if your gonna buy legal herbs, i've tried the rest and they suck,
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Re: Drug addicts turning to herbal highs [Re: 2Stoned]
    #3834585 - 02/25/05 09:38 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Your first two posts are advertising that site. Bye spammer.
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Re: Drug addicts turning to herbal highs [Re: theocean06]
    #3835168 - 02/26/05 12:37 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Man, grouping an anticholinergenic deliriant with mushrooms and salvia? Apples and oranges?


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Re: Drug addicts turning to herbal highs [Re: delta9]
    #3835234 - 02/26/05 12:52 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

more like apples and gas huffing


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    #3836546 - 02/26/05 01:14 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

hahaah


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