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Egg Shell Questions....
    #3768704 - 02/11/05 10:53 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Ok, so when I PC'd my casing (50/50 coir/verm) last week I wasn't planning on using and ph buffer in it, but I've read enough about it on here to want to use it now. I haven't been able to find oyster shells, or pure calcium carbonate at all, so I'll be using ground egg shells:

I cleaned them off, then I baked them in the oven to remove any moisture. I used my coffee grinder and ground them up into a very very fine powder about the consitency of baby powder... maybe slightly more coarse than that. Anyway, I have two questions:
1. I've yet to find anything about how much of this I should use in my casing mix. I now how much oyster shell I should use, but how much egg shell should I use???
2. Since I've already sterilized my casing mix, what would be the best method to add this stuff in???


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Re: Egg Shell Questions.... [Re: NeedMoreSleep]
    #3768714 - 02/11/05 10:55 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

put it in and mix it up...


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Re: Egg Shell Questions.... [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3768719 - 02/11/05 10:57 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

how much???


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Re: Egg Shell Questions.... [Re: NeedMoreSleep]
    #3768740 - 02/11/05 11:03 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

A tablespoon of that stuff in a small mixing bowl of casing material will work just fine, that's what I use. Using anymore then that won't harm anything.

That's a great PH buffer, I think you'll like the results of later flushes using your ground eggshell.


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Re: Egg Shell Questions.... [Re: NeedMoreSleep]
    #3768764 - 02/11/05 11:08 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

follow divers instructions, it takes a few days to get working so test the casing a few days after you mix


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Re: Egg Shell Questions.... [Re: Holydiver]
    #3768771 - 02/11/05 11:09 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

sweet, thanx guys, hope this help out my later flushes... i've got rye quarts incubating right now, so we'll see how much it help with my later flushes... i usually end up chuckin them in the back yard after about 3 flushes, hopefully this'll get me some good results...


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Re: Egg Shell Questions.... [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3768786 - 02/11/05 11:12 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Hmm.. but is it really necessary to grind it up? I've read that the crushed oyster shells should not be crushed up any further.


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Re: Egg Shell Questions.... [Re: Minimalist]
    #3768812 - 02/11/05 11:16 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Hmm.. but is it really necessary to grind it up? I've read that the crushed oyster shells should not be crushed up any further.




Yeah, these things should be in powdered form to diffuse properly in the casing mix.


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Re: Egg Shell Questions.... [Re: NeedMoreSleep]
    #3768993 - 02/11/05 11:59 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

1. Add the same amount as oystershell friend, 1tsp.-1tbs. per qt. of casing mix.
2. Add it before next time for now add it and resterilize would be my suggestion. GL


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Re: Egg Shell Questions.... [Re: hyphae]
    #3769460 - 02/12/05 01:53 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I was hoping I wouldn't have to resterilize my casing quarts...  I cleaned the shells with a water/peroxide solution, then baked them at 400 degrees for about 15-20 mins.  When I took them out, I made sure my counters and everything were spotless, and ground them in my coffee grinder that I cleaned with 90% alcohol, then put the powder in a baggie that I rinsed out with alcohol...  Do you still think it would be wise to re-PC my casing mix??? (Not being sarcastic, I really wanna know if you think I should) :confused:


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Re: Egg Shell Questions.... [Re: NeedMoreSleep]
    #3769493 - 02/12/05 02:06 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

If you have any doubts, just throw the egg/shell powder in a microwave container, nuke them 3 times for 2 minutes each. Then, when cooled, pour / spoon out casing mixture into alc swabbed bowl, mix the egg shell powder in well & then frost your substrates with the mix.


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Re: Egg Shell Questions.... [Re: agar]
    #3769503 - 02/12/05 02:10 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

microwave won't do anything to them...  they are completely waterless, microwave works off of h2o molecules rapidly speeding up, for lack of a better term (i'm high), thus creating friction/heat...  They would be mildly warm at best after nuking them...  now whether or not the microwaves would kill anything is beyond me, soooo.... :confused:


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Re: Egg Shell Questions.... [Re: NeedMoreSleep]
    #3769750 - 02/12/05 03:36 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

An emtpty glass pyrex bowl is also waterless. Stick one in a microwave & nuke it for 5 or 6 minutes. Then touch it. Tell me that isnt HOT.


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Re: Egg Shell Questions.... [Re: agar]
    #3769997 - 02/12/05 04:53 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

just put my ground egg shell in ziploc bag in the nuker for 4 mins... was just above room temperature when removed...


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Re: Egg Shell Questions.... [Re: NeedMoreSleep]
    #3770096 - 02/12/05 05:38 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Now try the same thing with your egg shells in in a glass pyrex measuring cup, add a tiny bit of water (or not) & nuke it for 3 minutes, twice.

Glas container gets HOT. Heat convection makes the egg shells hot.

If you added a tiny bit of water, it boiled off. It takes HEAT to boil water.


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Re: Egg Shell Questions.... [Re: agar]
    #3770173 - 02/12/05 07:12 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Sorry agar, I know you have a lot of posts and stuff, but you're wrong... and I'm a perfectionist... so I can't let it go... Here's an explanation that's in simple terms, let me know if your taste is more scientific.  Here's a good little excerpt:

"A microwave oven uses microwaves to heat food. Microwaves are radio waves. In the case of microwave ovens, the commonly used radio wave frequency is roughly 2,500 megahertz (2.5 gigahertz). Radio waves in this frequency range have an interesting property: they are absorbed by water, fats and sugars. When they are absorbed they are converted directly into atomic motion -- heat. Microwaves in this frequency range have another interesting property: they are not absorbed by most plastics, glass or ceramics." :wink:

Hence I can't sterilize in the microwave unless I add water, which I don't want to do...


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Re: Egg Shell Questions.... [Re: NeedMoreSleep]
    #3770184 - 02/12/05 07:37 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

The solution is really simple.
Put a dry pyrex dish into the microwave, turn it on for 30 seconds on high , then take it out and feel the temperature.
Then post here what you experienced.

I will wait.


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Re: Egg Shell Questions.... [Re: Anno]
    #3770186 - 02/12/05 07:41 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Still waiting.....


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Re: Egg Shell Questions.... [Re: Anno]
    #3770188 - 02/12/05 07:42 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I'm waiting to......... :wink:

Still waiting.............. :wink:

If you don't have a pyrex dish, just use a drinking glass - empty.


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Re: Egg Shell Questions.... [Re: Anno]
    #3770190 - 02/12/05 07:46 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Still waiting.....




me too

think he is running cold water over his hand?


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