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OfflineSir Tokes-A-Lot
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Jesse Helms
    #376614 - 08/22/01 08:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Good ol' Jesse helms is retiring... oh boo hoo. no more christian religious right windbag chairing the foreign relations commite. one less southern republican conservative in the senate, how terrible. what will we do???



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Re: Jesse Helms [Re: Sir Tokes-A-Lot]
    #376685 - 08/22/01 10:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It's about time.
The man was a homophobe and a racist, good riddence.




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Re: Jesse Helms [Re: Lenore]
    #376848 - 08/23/01 03:45 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

>It's about time.

No shit. Praise the fucking lord.

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Re: Jesse Helms [Re: Sir Tokes-A-Lot]
    #376853 - 08/23/01 03:49 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

the heavens have spoken....

and unto me they said, "life is good-- there will be less tieriney(sp).

The multiple troubles of man,
My brother, like slander and pain
Amaze you? Consider the heart
That holds them all in strangeness
And doesn't break.
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Amaze you? Consider the heart
That holds them all in strangeness
And doesn't break.
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Re: Jesse Helms [Re: batou]
    #377340 - 08/23/01 10:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)





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Re: Jesse Helms [Re: Sir Tokes-A-Lot]
    #377374 - 08/23/01 11:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Thats what everyone said when McCaffery left and his replacement makes him look like a liberal wussage. Its the same with Helms and every other politician: no matter who you vote for, the radical right always wins.



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Re: Jesse Helms [Re: zetek]
    #377485 - 08/24/01 02:16 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

great cartoon, very truthfull



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Re: Jesse Helms [Re: Sir Tokes-A-Lot]
    #377879 - 08/24/01 04:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I'm glad he's gone, not because of what he believed in but it was that he was too old to be in that position. He probably doesn't even have a computer yet. Damn new-fangled invention.

FYI: in a liberal's eyes:

Homophobe (ho-mo-fobe) ---- disagreeing with the gay life-style and not supporting it no matter what your beliefs are.
see also: tolerance

i really don't think he was scared of gays.



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Re: Jesse Helms [Re: Innvertigo]
    #378549 - 08/25/01 03:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

>>i really don't think he was scared of gays.

imho... ANYONE who has a problem with the gay lifestyle is afraid of homosexuals - be it fear of THEIR OWN lifestyle being threatened, or perhaps fear of examining their own sexuality - otherwise why would you give two shits where someone else puts their dick.

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Re: Jesse Helms [Re: Product]
    #378640 - 08/25/01 06:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

****ANYONE who has a problem with the gay lifestyle is afraid of homosexuals *****

That has to be the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard. Not surprised however

so is it true to say that about 99% of the Liberals on this board are Christianphobes?

You should really try to find out the true definition of homophobe because you couldn't be more wrong. Tell me something i hate the people of NAMBLA does that make me a Petaphobe?





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Re: Jesse Helms [Re: Innvertigo]
    #378666 - 08/25/01 07:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

>>so is it true to say that about 99% of the Liberals on this board are Christianphobes?

Is Christian a lifestyle? I don't think so. I'm Christian myself in that I believe in the teachings of Christ (you know, love thy neighbor... etc etc.) Hating people is not what Jesus taught, but seems to be the bailiwick of most "Christians" in the US.

>>i hate the people of NAMBLA does that make me a Petaphobe?

dude, WHAT are you talking about? Do you mean Pedophobe perhaps? I honestly don't know what you mean because you're making up words. And a pedophobe would be one who hates or is afraid of children, but I don't think that's what you're talking about. Buy a dictionary and please clarify.

And no, I don't support NAMBLA. If you're a straight male, should I assume that you support child molesters?

Get a clue.

And by the way, why DO you care where I or anyone else puts my dick. You neglected to address that part of my post.

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Re: Jesse Helms [Re: Product]
    #378705 - 08/25/01 08:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

NAMBLA is a disgusting organization. that has nothing to do with this post.



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Re: Jesse Helms [Re: Sir Tokes-A-Lot]
    #379090 - 08/26/01 11:16 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

but isn't it their way of life?

I agree that it's discusting as do i the gay lifestyle. However i don't have a problem with homo's doing what they do, it's their life. But DO NOT expect people to accept it. I will never "ACCEPT" it but i will have to tolerate it. Does that make me a homophobe? In liberal minds yes...they are quite small ya know, their minds that is....But i don't hate any of them

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Re: Jesse Helms [Re: Product]
    #379092 - 08/26/01 11:23 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

****Is Christian a lifestyle? I don't think so. I'm Christian myself in that I believe in the teachings of Christ (you know, love thy neighbor... etc etc.) Hating people is not what Jesus taught, but seems to be the bailiwick of most "Christians" in the US. ****

As a matter of fact it is a life style. Since you want to quote people you should also be familiar with the "HATE THE SIN NOT THE SINNER" pharse. That's where i as well as others stand on homosexuality. We hate the act not the person.

****And no, I don't support NAMBLA. If you're a straight male, should I assume that you support child molesters? ****

eh? No you shouls assume i love woman.

****And by the way, why DO you care where I or anyone else puts my dick. You neglected to address that part of my post.****

Oh i know, i neglected that question because of your superior debating skils.....

Actually you can put your dick in a blender for all i care the point is that you can be a homo all you want but don't expect those that oppose it to accept it. I won't hate you but i won't support you.


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Re: Jesse Helms [Re: Innvertigo]
    #379107 - 08/26/01 11:57 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

>>I will never "ACCEPT" it but i will have to tolerate it.

Right, exactly. Jesse Helms (the topic of this thread) neither accepted nor tolerated it.

>>Does that make me a homophobe? In liberal minds yes.

Well, actually, in Webster's eyes you are as well. Here's the dictionary definition:

ho?mo?pho?bi?a
n.
1. Fear of or contempt for lesbians and gay men.

You qualify for the contempt part.

Oh, by the way - that's from www.dictionary.com - I strongly suggest you bookmark it and use it as a reference when posting.

>>As a matter of fact it is a life style.

Really?? Hmm... seems to me there are as many different "Christian" lifestyles as there are types of Christians: Quaker, Seventh Day Adventists, Fundamentalist... and so on.

>>I won't hate you but i won't support you.

I could care less if you or Jesse Helms hate me or anyone else. But yeah, you do have to tolerate others and allow them to live as they see fit as long as they don't harm you or another person.

As to whether you "support" me or not, well that's up to you. But if you truly subscribe to the tenets which were the foundation of this country: ie. the inalienable right to life, liberty and the persuit of happiness, I would hope that you support any American's right to live their life in whatever way they like, as long as it doesn't infringe upon the rights of others.


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Re: Jesse Helms [Re: Product]
    #379417 - 08/26/01 07:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

(this should be RE: Innvertigo)

Hey, can I butt in here (no pun intended)? Isn't acceptance pretty much a moot point? Since sex (be it hetero- or homo-) generally is a private act behind closed doors, what is there to "accept"? Pretty much all you can do is verbally state to the world that you don't approve of certain consensual acts that certain adults may be privately participating in between themselves. But what business is that of yours anyway? It really isn't anyone's business who fucks whom.

Edited by zetek on 08/26/01 06:34 PM.



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Re: Jesse Helms [Re: Sir Tokes-A-Lot]
    #379480 - 08/26/01 09:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

some of you dont seem to understand what nambla is. it isnt just gays, it is gay child molesters. its the MAN BOY love association. SICK FUCKING FAGS MOLESTING LITTLE KIDS SAYING THAT ITS NATURAL. IF I EVER MEET ONE OF THEM ILL BREAK HIS FUCKING FACE

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Re: Jesse Helms [Re: Sir Tokes-A-Lot]
    #379571 - 08/26/01 11:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Ditto.



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Re: Jesse Helms [Re: Sir Tokes-A-Lot]
    #379800 - 08/27/01 11:02 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

the sad truth of the matter is that most child molestors are male heterosexuals. just curious what is the hetero equivilant of fag? i think we need a hateful name to equal the power that the fag and nigger conotate to others...

to innvertigo:
this is yet another part of the conservative stance that i dont understand. you preach that the government (liberals) is too intrusive into personal lives and that the government should not be allowed to regulate decisions of a very personal nature (gun ownership, etc), yet are more than willing to deny rights to peoples that have views that are the least be different from yours. do gays not pay the same taxes (although they get screwed because of the lack of marriage credits) and have to follow the same criminal code we do? the era of gay discrimination will end like the era of black discrimination, its all a matter of time.
oh, and one other thing, if people hate the act but not the person, why do i always see these facist religious nuts out on the street saying gays will go to hell, gays are evil, etc, etc? im not accusing you of being one of these people, its just that you claim to belong to this group.

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Re: Jesse Helms [Re: capncracker]
    #379890 - 08/27/01 01:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

****this is yet another part of the conservative stance that i dont understand****

I'm not a conservative. I'm a Libertarian

****you preach that the government (liberals) is too intrusive into personal lives and that the government should not be allowed to regulate decisions of a very personal nature (gun ownership, etc), yet are more than willing to deny rights to peoples that have views that are the least be different from yours****

I want you to name one time i've ever said that homos don't have the right to do what they do. I'll be looking for your answer with bells on!! I merely stated that i don't have to accept this practice, no matter how much the libbies whine.

****do gays not pay the same taxes (although they get screwed because of the lack of marriage credits)****

they do, and marriage is between a man and a wife.

****the era of gay discrimination will end like the era of black discrimination, its all a matter of time.****

I hope your right. I believe that discriminating anyone for their personal life is wrong. However i also believe that i and others have the right NOT to accept it.

****, if people hate the act but not the person, why do i always see these facist religious nuts out on the street saying gays will go to hell, gays are evil, etc, etc? *****

It's what they believe and they have the right to believe what they want. Just as homos have the right to be gay and think it's right in God's eyes. Furthermore, i don't speak for religious groups, i speak for myself. I hate the Sin and Love the sinner...platonocally ofcourse.....

****im not accusing you of being one of these people, its just that you claim to belong to this group****

When did i say that i belonged to this group? (yet another accusation i'd love for you to explain) Am i to understand that anyone that believes in God is a wacko?


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