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couple of questions
    #3764514 - 02/10/05 10:44 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

question number one: does the blueing of the mushroom atually have anything to do with the potency???
my grow has started to fruit and i picked one monster (6 grams dry) and i tore it apart to make tea, and this motherfucker is BLUE! bluer than ive ever seen,

qustion number two: can somebody here point me in the direction of some sort of strain potency stat sheet, i was wondering if anything like this existed... exstensive though, not just cyanescens are more potent than your average cubie, specifically psilocin/psilocybin concentration, what im looking for is the mushroom with the highest psilocin content.

and yes i realize this post belongs elsewhere but i thought the folk hee would be able to answer it best, so this is where it goes.


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Re: couple of questions [Re: incubaby_421]
    #3764525 - 02/10/05 10:48 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

1. no
2. no


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Re: couple of questions [Re: NeedMoreSleep]
    #3764536 - 02/10/05 10:50 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

well thank you kindly sir

so no way of really knowing psilocin/psilocybin ballance besides eating up?


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Re: couple of questions [Re: incubaby_421]
    #3764561 - 02/10/05 10:57 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

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incubaby_241 said:
so no way of really knowing psilocin/psilocybin ballance besides eating up?




Precisely.  There are so many different strains/substrains/isolates/mutations out there that a strain could be sent to 2 next door neighbors and they could end up with shrooms on different ends of the potency spectrum.  Not saying thats whats guaranteed, but definately possible.  Not to mention growing conditions.  Sterility, substrate, moisture content, humidity, etc., etc.....  Eat up, you won't be dissapointed in anything if you down enough grams :grin:


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Re: couple of questions [Re: NeedMoreSleep]
    #3764581 - 02/10/05 11:02 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

for sure!

i bought some about a week back and had a cracy body buzz all night but that is not what i was after at all, it wasnt the highly introspective experience i remebered it to be, i blame it on not enough psilocin?


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Re: couple of questions [Re: incubaby_421]
    #3764596 - 02/10/05 11:04 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

There really isn't enough potency difference between strains for such a sheet to exist. The potency of a mushroom is mainly based on how it is cultivated. For example a Treasure Coast culture grown on a much more enriched substrate will be much more potent than a Golden Teacher culture grown on a less enriched substrate in less optimal conditions, visa versa. Some do claim and swear that certian strains are more potent.

Sheets do exist documenting the difference between some species of actives because there is enough difference in chemical makeup that the method of cultivation still wouldn't sway the chemical amounts enough to make the data inconsistent or unreliable.

Hope I helped,
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Re: couple of questions [Re: dmc_]
    #3764599 - 02/10/05 11:06 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

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i blame it on not enough psilocin?




As a result of growing conditions, experience of the grower, your tolerance level and what you had in your stomach that day.

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Re: couple of questions [Re: dmc_]
    #3764660 - 02/10/05 11:25 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)


there definitely is a higher potency in some strains than others. of course it depends on growing conditions and substrate, but not all cubes are the same.

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Re: couple of questions [Re: DSD]
    #3764793 - 02/10/05 11:56 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

any scientific data to back that up? Can you get a good majority of people to agree that A certian strain is superior in potency?

I agree to an extent DSD, I just think most of it is hype and marketing.

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Re: couple of questions [Re: dmc_]
    #3765268 - 02/11/05 02:07 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_info4.shtml

thats as detailed as it gets.

every mushroom is a little different
and each individual shroom may be stronger or weaker then the next.
also each person reacts a little differently to different strains...
and on top of that the growing conditions have too much of an impact on the potency to leave any1 interested in the differences between strains as they are marginal in comparison...


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Re: couple of questions [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #3765384 - 02/11/05 02:34 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks Vertigo. I knew I wasnt completely crazy =)

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Re: couple of questions [Re: DSD]
    #3765418 - 02/11/05 02:50 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

DSD said:

there definitely is a higher potency in some strains than others. of course it depends on growing conditions and substrate, but not all cubes are the same.




Agreed

I might add that the quality and the genetics of the spores or mycelium are a factor also.

You want to test different potency and visuals?
I suggest growing the Cambodian strain and comparing them to the Gulf Coast strain...using the same substrate and the same growing conditions for both.
They are very different!~

Good luck!~


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Re: couple of questions [Re: Roadkill]
    #3765425 - 02/11/05 02:54 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

NP dude :smile:


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Re: couple of questions [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #3767041 - 02/11/05 02:42 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

well im not to worried as i did a test run on my brazilians lst night, only a half an eighth dry...
evidently conditions wor correct and i did a good job and had quality product... :smile:


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Re: couple of questions [Re: incubaby_421]
    #3767422 - 02/11/05 04:02 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

The Dosage Calculator actually has a pretty good database.  It's no more detailed than the link above, but I'll post it anyway because it's a good thing, if you were to to, say, *experiment* a little bit.  :laugh:

http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/12195

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