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poppy legality
    #3764865 - 02/11/05 02:17 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

exactly what is the law on growing poppies?

i see them in a public garden and parks around town, but on erowid it says they are controlled.

i am not completely sure if it is ok to grow them, gots any links or does anyone know?

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Re: poppy legality [Re: supra]
    #3764900 - 02/11/05 02:29 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

technically they can bust you. you could be said to be growing them with teh intent of makign opium.

for substance legality in canada check this link out.
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/c-38.8/37187.html

no idea where teh other countries similar webpages are.


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Re: poppy legality [Re: supra]
    #3765151 - 02/11/05 03:30 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

if you look like you possibly do drugs it's illegal, if you have a decent sized crop of them it's illegal, if they are processed in anyway (scored pods ect.) it's illegal. also poppy pods, straw ect. are schedule 2 i believe except for floral arrangements (sketchy law imo) they're not gonna bust granny for having 5 or so opium poppies in the garden but if it looks like it's setup for production or you have the drug user look they'll arrest you probably. thing is most cops don't really know what poppies look like, though the mature pod stands out somewhat and would be familar to LEO i would think. if  you were growing a bunch and got caught you might be able to beat the case (provided you didn't lance any pods) with a good ass lawyer but it'll cost you. i don't think it's to high on their radar if you're doing it for personal use though and not converting to H or selling the O on the streets next to elementary schools. they don't look for poppies in the bird i wouldn't think, too hard to distunguish from the air. there's no smell or anything either really. growing in a fenced backyard wouldnt be all that risky imo. keep in mind this is my best understanding of the current law, i'm not a lawyer and could very well be completly wrong :stoned:


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Re: poppy legality [Re: John]
    #3765694 - 02/11/05 09:05 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

thanks for the replys guys, anyone else got anything?


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Re: poppy legality [Re: supra]
    #3765800 - 02/11/05 10:02 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

arent most garden variety poppies signifcantly lower in the amount of opium that can be obtained?


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    #3766206 - 02/11/05 12:43 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Edited by pod3 (10/26/06 01:42 PM)


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Re: poppy legality [Re: John]
    #3767001 - 02/11/05 04:30 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

John said:
if you look like you possibly do drugs it's illegal




a 70yo woman was arrested in oklahoma for growing them, she didnt have a field
full, just about a dozen or so.


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Re: poppy legality [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3768433 - 02/11/05 09:52 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

that is so strange.......they are in the city garden, i cant believe a fucking flower is illegal. ahhhhhhh..this drives me crazy, so stupid, yet the seeds for the plant are completely ok for cooking, just ridiculous!


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Re: poppy legality [Re: supra]
    #3771953 - 02/12/05 09:10 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Personally I dont think its that strange considering how many endogenous chemicals are actually scheduled substances. We are all walking talking drug manufactuering organisms completely contradicting the standards set by those we elect to govern and control our consciousness'. Maybe an old lady was arrested for growing opium poppies but I would like to hear the whole story and hear what the judge had to say about it. A lot of other Fumitory and Papaveraceae Family members contain phytopharmacologically active alkaloids that are similiar , in structure and some in physiological(rather than psychological) action, to the constituents of the Opium Poppy but very few (if any) of these plants or alkaloids will produce the much sought Euphoric bliss associated with that of Morphine and its relatives. I would recommend against experimenting with the legal alternatives as many contain poisonous "Opiate" alkaloids that can have some nasty effects. Lets not forget that several of the numerous non-psychoactive opiate alkaloids in the Opium poppy also possess toxic properties, which I believe the processing of the Opium / Chandu / Resin helps eliminate. Now we could get into a discussion about these other legal plants in question, which some contain isoquinoline alkaloids known to be nearly as potent of a pain killer as Morphine, but I will leave that up to you guys. If you are interested in learning more I suggest purchasing "Oxy" by Otto Snow.


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