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Offlinescatmanrav
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Pasteurizing in a trash can problems...
    #3757990 - 02/09/05 08:45 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Ok, I got this Galvanized steal trashcan and I think, "oh shit, this is perfect for straw". So I plop it on my hotplate..pour in some water and out of both of the seams at the bottom, it starts dripping. Damned it. I was worried but it looked so solid! *sigh*

So what can I do? Do I need to solder it? Can I use some silicone? Just picked some up at the store when I got the can...

Pain in the arse...

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Re: Pasteurizing in a trash can problems... [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3758002 - 02/09/05 08:48 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I'd return it.


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Re: Pasteurizing in a trash can problems... [Re: Roadkill]
    #3758014 - 02/09/05 08:50 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I dont think its meant to hold water. It might make sense too, a tash can sitting outside in the rain should leak water instead of holding it in. But it leaks from both corners a little.... Its not even to much, a drip...


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Re: Pasteurizing in a trash can problems... [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3758040 - 02/09/05 08:57 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Man,if you didn't want it to hold water, it would.Use that high temp auto silicone.I,m ready to do the same thing,only going plastic can and hot water heater.

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Re: Pasteurizing in a trash can problems... [Re: KaptKid]
    #3758072 - 02/09/05 09:02 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

That's affirmative, those cans are not designed to be water tight.


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Re: Pasteurizing in a trash can problems... [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3758094 - 02/09/05 09:07 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

return it and try finding a mortar tub or a washtub...


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Re: Pasteurizing in a trash can problems... [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3758610 - 02/09/05 10:46 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

buy another one, then put yours inside. It probably leaks because of all the presure from the weight or the water. just put it inside another one, that should hold for at least the 3 hours you need it for.


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Re: Pasteurizing in a trash can problems... [Re: shroommachine]
    #3758616 - 02/09/05 10:48 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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buy another one, then put yours inside. It probably leaks because of all the presure from the weight or the water. just put it inside another one, that should hold for at least the 3 hours you need it for.




Are you trying to raise your post count tonight? You're certainly on a roll for retarded posts this evening, my friend. Take a look in the mirror before you go calling other members "trolls" for no good reason.





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Re: Pasteurizing in a trash can problems... [Re: Holydiver]
    #3758648 - 02/09/05 10:53 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I agree that high temp silicone is your best bet. Seal all around the the edges and you should be good. If not, just put a wider container (metal of course) under it if it doesn't leak too much. That'll catch any excess so long as it doesn't pour out of the trashcan.


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Re: Pasteurizing in a trash can problems... [Re: Holydiver]
    #3758744 - 02/09/05 11:07 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Diver said:Are you trying to raise your post count tonight? You're certainly on a roll for retarded posts this evening, my friend. Take a look in the mirror before you go calling other members "trolls" for no good reason.








A vendor posting about the superiority of his product outside the vendor board sounds a little like a troll to me. Look at the thread, i had reason to call him out on it. Furthermore, I was simply presenting a different idea on how to solve his problem in a more cost and time effective manner. My idea was pretty stupid, but it could also work as well as any other that has been posted.


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And I said, I don't care if they lay me off either, because I told, I told Bill that if they move my desk one more time, then, then I'm, I'm quitting, I'm going to quit. And, and I told Don too, because they've moved my desk ...four times already this year and I used to be over by the window and I could see the squirrels, and they were merry, but then, they switched from the Swingline to the Boston stapler, but I kept my Swingline stapler because it didn't bind up as much and I kept the staples for the Swingline stapler and its not okay because if they take my stapler then I'll set the building on fire.


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Re: Pasteurizing in a trash can problems... [Re: shroommachine]
    #3758872 - 02/09/05 11:29 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Just wondering....what vendor are you talking about?


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Re: Pasteurizing in a trash can problems... [Re: Taskenti]
    #3758967 - 02/09/05 11:44 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Azarius. Look at the easy poo alternative post.


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And I said, I don't care if they lay me off either, because I told, I told Bill that if they move my desk one more time, then, then I'm, I'm quitting, I'm going to quit. And, and I told Don too, because they've moved my desk ...four times already this year and I used to be over by the window and I could see the squirrels, and they were merry, but then, they switched from the Swingline to the Boston stapler, but I kept my Swingline stapler because it didn't bind up as much and I kept the staples for the Swingline stapler and its not okay because if they take my stapler then I'll set the building on fire.


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Re: Pasteurizing in a trash can problems... [Re: shroommachine]
    #3759046 - 02/09/05 11:59 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I second that silicone idea, that shit can withstand the temps. and i like how it looks....but you could get another can just to make sure....like put on in the other...sounds logical that the water weight might be helping it leak...try the silicone and if it fails try another can and if that doesnt work then damen if i know...but gl....

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Re: Pasteurizing in a trash can problems... [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3760890 - 02/10/05 10:47 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

i'm probably stating the obvious here, but apply the silicone on the inside when you do it so the water pressure pushes it into the seam.

If you ever find yourself rolling in money and want to use something besides a trash can you could buy a steel drum off of ebay for $30-$60 (either unused or used for food) and then get a heater unit for it for about $230:
http://www.gemplers.com/a/shop/product.asp?T1=55VAL&src=21TL002

but then again if I had $300 sitting around I'd probably spend it on something else...


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Re: Pasteurizing in a trash can problems... [Re: gsmith]
    #3760941 - 02/10/05 11:05 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Do not solder, solder contains lead.

However, you can get lead-free solder. It is mostly silver and expensive.

Stick with High-Temp RTV, or return it.


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Re: Pasteurizing in a trash can problems... [Re: gsmith]
    #3760969 - 02/10/05 11:13 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I would try some epoxy, like JB quick weld it sets up quick and is impervious to water, oil, can handle temps to 300 degrees I believe, it tells on the package. I know the regular is rated at 500 degrees but takes a lot longer to set up. It will seal that seam up and be more durable than silicone IMO.


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Re: Pasteurizing in a trash can problems... [Re: shroommachine]
    #3760978 - 02/10/05 11:16 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

shroommachine said:
Azarius. Look at the easy poo alternative post.




Well I'm hijacking my own thread BUT...can you show me a quote of you calling someone named AZARIUS a troll (Or even GardenTraveler, the real member from the sponsor Azarius, which BTW is a completly different sponsor then High Mountain Compost) as opposed to someone named AZURESCENS (name of a potent species of mushrooms). You have no clue what your talking about on so many levels.

This is the only post I see of you calling someone a troll and its a regular member of the community trying to inform someone on a good product from a sponsor:

Quote:

shroommachine said:
Quote:

azurescens said:
It's a tremendous product. Better than any poop you'll find in a field or anywhere for that matter.




**coughTROLLcough***




Now besides that, how the hell is getting another of the same can (a 15 dollar solution by the way) gonna help me? It starts leaking as soon as theres a 1/2" of water in the bottom, ill last about 2 minutes before it starts leaking again.

Now back on topic....

OK I could NOT find a washtub or ANY other metal tub besides these. I checked a number of places and have been looking for a month or so now, and crying over my results, untill I happened upon these. SO I'm gonna start with a repair attempt...I caulked the corners last night and let them dry and it pretty much stopped the leaking but now I found another spot at the bottom seam that dripped and a little in one spot where I repaired that was too thin and drips (slower though). So I ran the whole thing over with siliconeafter that down every seam and THICK. The stuff says it takes temps up to 400 once cured and my plate doesnt get near that high so I should be ok I'm hoping. Got classes in an hour but we'll see if it holds afterwords. I have yet to get even an inch of water in the thing so...

Alrighty, thanks for suggestions everyone...


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Re: Pasteurizing in a trash can problems... [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3761154 - 02/10/05 12:17 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

:thumbup: , Gl scat, and I didn't even think of JB weld :thumbup:

:shrug:

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Re: Pasteurizing in a trash can problems... [Re: gsmith]
    #3774644 - 02/13/05 05:23 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

gsmith said:
i'm probably stating the obvious here, but apply the silicone on the inside when you do it so the water pressure pushes it into the seam.

If you ever find yourself rolling in money and want to use something besides a trash can you could buy a steel drum off of ebay for $30-$60 (either unused or used for food) and then get a heater unit for it for about $230:
http://www.gemplers.com/a/shop/product.asp?T1=55VAL&src=21TL002

but then again if I had $300 sitting around I'd probably spend it on something else...




You may hve thought it obvious, but it wasnt. 5 shrooms for you! I lined the whole outside and it still leaked. Lined the inside and last night pasteurized a big arsed batch of straw without a problem.


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Pasteurizing in a trash can problems... [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3774694 - 02/13/05 05:36 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Or you could go down to your local Chemical company and get a steel drum for free.

Tell them that you need a steel drum for your outboard motor...I did.

Wash it out really good before you use it...though.

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