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Iran? Rice wants to "charge!"
    #3755948 - 02/09/05 02:26 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Rice and her Proposal Seriously, what is up with that?

Shall we be the holy crusaders of the 21st century? Bringing freedom and disarmament to all nations? When is it gonna stop? Will it stop?

Whats next... a draft? To defend the next war of bullshit?

Is the UN just gonna sit idly by, and let the US make another decision on the fate of the international community?

Why cant they stand up, come together, and make a decision about what has to be done? Shouldnt THEY be the authority?

Why are the slacking... and what do you think they are going to do? Can we tell them to get their shit together and get on the ball?

Tell me your thoughts, your ideas, please.


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Re: Iran? Rice wants to "charge!" [Re: Zero7a1]
    #3756078 - 02/09/05 03:08 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Full scale occupation of the region... The economy might be slipping, but only for a while, wait till we occupy more and more of the region...

Draft ~ soon enough

The UN has no actual power in consideration to anything the US wants to do.... we openly breach laws of the UN... and get away with it, and will get away with it.


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Re: Iran? Rice wants to "charge!" [Re: Zero7a1]
    #3756100 - 02/09/05 03:16 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Just a general comment not directed at anyone:

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Bringing freedom and disarmament to all nations? When is it gonna stop? Will it stop?




I thought the left wants to disarm people?


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Re: Iran? Rice wants to "charge!" [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3756103 - 02/09/05 03:18 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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I thought the left wants to disarm people?





Only it's own people...


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Re: Iran? Rice wants to "charge!" [Re: Rono]
    #3756116 - 02/09/05 03:20 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Wow, that makes sense. :rolleyes:


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Re: Iran? Rice wants to "charge!" [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3756133 - 02/09/05 03:24 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Makes perfect sense...why should any nation dictate what another nation does?  Oh yeah...nevermind, you're an American...this is a foreign concept for you. :wink:


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Re: Iran? Rice wants to "charge!" [Re: Zero7a1]
    #3756141 - 02/09/05 03:26 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Zero7a1 said:
Shall we be the holy crusaders of the 21st century? Bringing freedom and disarmament to all nations? When is it gonna stop? Will it stop?




From PNAC:

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Of course, the United States must be prudent in how it exercises its power. But we cannot safely avoid the responsibilities of global leadership or the costs that are associated with its exercise. America has a vital role in maintaining peace and security in Europe, Asia, and the Middle East. If we shirk our responsibilities, we invite challenges to our fundamental interests. The history of the 20th century should have taught us that it is important to shape circumstances before crises emerge, and to meet threats before they become dire. The history of this century should have taught us to embrace the cause of American leadership.





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Re: Iran? Rice wants to "charge!" [Re: Rono]
    #3756146 - 02/09/05 03:28 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Makes perfect sense...why should any nation dictate what another nation does?




I'm convinced that foreign water is contaminated because whatever you foreigners are drinking today has your minds all messed up, you must be the 10th person today to accuse me of implying something that I have never said nor have I ever even hinted at. Albeit it's just you being you. I guess this is what happens to Canoodians when their hockey is taken away.


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Re: Iran? Rice wants to "charge!" [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3756155 - 02/09/05 03:31 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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I guess this is what happens to Canoodians when their hockey is taken away.



Touche'...


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Re: Iran? Rice wants to "charge!" [Re: Rono]
    #3756168 - 02/09/05 03:34 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

:grin:


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Re: Iran? Rice wants to "charge!" [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3756256 - 02/09/05 03:57 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Eyeran was always the plan. A-stan on one side, Eyerack on the other,and who in the middle halfway surrounded?, Eyeran.


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Re: Iran? Rice wants to "charge!" [Re: Zero7a1]
    #3756296 - 02/09/05 04:03 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Tell me your thoughts, your ideas, please.




I read the article through a couple of times. What part of her statement quoted in the article has upset you? Could you cut and paste something she was quoted as saying and then tell us specifically what your objection is to her words?

Thank you.



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Re: Iran? Rice wants to "charge!" [Re: California]
    #3756368 - 02/09/05 04:18 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Iran? Rice wants to "charge!" [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3756797 - 02/09/05 05:45 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Why don't we just wait until isreal blows up the nuclear sites, and the younger generation topples the government in Iran. Its bound to happen soon.


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Re: Iran? Rice wants to "charge!" [Re: blacksabbathrulz]
    #3757786 - 02/09/05 08:00 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

that'd be sweet if iran and israel went at it. Killed eachother off.


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Re: Iran? Rice wants to "charge!" [Re: blacksabbathrulz]
    #3758374 - 02/09/05 10:07 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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and the younger generation topples the government in Iran. Its bound to happen soon.




i have this middle eastern politics proff, and he told us first semester that he has been saying that when he was in his 20's (hes like 50-60ish now) and as of yet the younger generation has yet to do anything.


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Re: Iran? Rice wants to "charge!" [Re: Phred]
    #3759918 - 02/10/05 02:35 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I have my own ideas, but i wanted to hear yours  :rolleyes:


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Re: Iran? Rice wants to "charge!" [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3759948 - 02/10/05 02:43 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Our government wants to disarm the rest of the world, because they think that they are in the right, and that they "Have the right idea about what to do".

What has the 20th century taught us? MAybe to NOT follow leadership...

What if the germans sitll followed hitler, the russians Stalin and Linnin, Mao ze dong... George Bush?

THis last one hundred years, if anything, should have taught us how to listen to ourselves, how to think for ourselves and understand ourselves in our own context and the personal responsibility we have to see annd understannd things for ourselves, and make concious thoughtful decisions about the things we decide to do.

Did we or did we not know that Sadamm had weapons of mass destruction..?

Does iran have plans for "global terror"? Do you think that Russia has halted THEIR nuclear programs? What makes them better than us, or us them? WHo is the authority?

MY standpoint is that the UN SHOULD BE THE AUTHORITY. Thats what the hundred years SHOULD have taught us, that we should join as a world community to fight the sort of things that have brought us under in the past. But to give us the wisdom to see the things that will bring us down in the future, and to widen our circle of diplomacy and international power to effectively balance the power in the world, and not have to see something like happened on the day of Hiroshima and nagasaki, which i will add as a closing statement. These bombs were dropped by the United States of America.


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Re: Iran? Rice wants to "charge!" [Re: FrankieJustTrypt]
    #3760190 - 02/10/05 04:06 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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FrankieJustTrypt said:
that'd be sweet if iran and israel went at it. Killed eachother off.




Iran would easily get crushed by israel.


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Re: Iran? Rice wants to "charge!" [Re: California]
    #3761728 - 02/10/05 02:26 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Eyeran was always the plan. A-stan on one side, Eyerack on the other,and who in the middle halfway surrounded?, Eyeran.




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