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Edited by McMan (10/31/01 11:30 PM)

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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: McMan]
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No offensie. We really find your product impressive, and we do wish that the "money was there". However, why are you only offering the discount via paypal? Dosent that hook up directly with people's checking/saveings account? (not the method payment many of us prefer)

Once again, many of us are totaly impressed by the product and are awaiting reviews. Keep up the good "inventing"!



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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: McMan]
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what are those rock looking things in there?
and what is that dome made from? (fiber/glass)?
obviously it's custom made...lookin awesome!

~fortyounces2freedom~ & ~disconnectedhaze~

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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: McMan]
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I might buy one as long as you custom make me one to say HYDRA POO




and i couldn't awake from the nightmare that sucked me in and pulled me under
pulled me under
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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: McMan]
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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: McMan]
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Wow $160 for a terrarium for cakes! What a deal! I thought a huge rubbermaid twice the size of that for $3 was a good deal but boy was I wrong! For someone who is only going to do cakes that is an excellent deal!!!!!

And by the way is the top of the hydro-pod the top of that vegetable wash container that comes with "fit" (the ever so useful vegetable wash).

"I got that Fiya Powda" -- some black dude

"DXMHEAD420 ripped me off and was an ass about it too" -- Myself


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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: tom]
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The dome is much larger than the Fit dome. I know because I have both. I was trying to make my own similar system from a Fit vegetable washer before the hydrapod came out.

The hydrapod may not look like much on the outside but it is deceptively well designed. It looks like a bucket full of rocks with a dome on top but in reality there is an inner bucket with a slick flood drain system in addition to an aerator. It uses those hydroponic growrocks, which are super absorbtive light claylike pellets. This thing is setup to give constant air exchange with out sacrificing humidity.

I am just testing it out now, but I am very impressed so far. It is far superior to a static cheapo rubbermaid box with perlite humidification. I feel it will be ideal for fruiting the more sensitive species that can't take the stagnet air of a passive system such as panaeolus species and mexicana. It should also reduce if not eliminate contamination on cubensis cakes after birthing due to the air exchange. A newbies dream.

Its not a piece of overpriced junk like the mushroommagic.com soul food machine. I don't think its overpriced at all. I wouldn't build them myself to sell at that price. I think once a few people start posting their results, the hydrapod will become the standard style of grow chamber for automated environmental control and hands off growing.

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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: Workman]
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it looks like a nice system but i personaly think its overpriced, mcman you cool n shit but 160 dollars US, i dont think all those parts cost that much, also im from canada so 160 is like
$275+. so its not worth it 4 me.,
im telling you, lower your price and you will sell a lot more and make even more profit.
later


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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: McMan]
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McMan,
the hydra-pod looks great, but unfortunately I cannot purchase it for a couple of years. Do you see yourself selling the hydra-pod or a similar, "improved" product within the next couple of years?

LEGALIZE...


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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: McMan]
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Hey McMan do you have a different growing container , I do remember the address it is http://www.myco-tek.com/MC/Intro.html because win I hit order, it took me to your Hydrapod site and if you do how can I buy it?

Scooby!! Scooby!!! Doo!!!!!

Edited by What_Guy on 08/21/01 04:52 PM.



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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: McMan]
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Hey Mcman, you wouldn't consider building me one, I would pay the price, It is a incridable peice of equipment,It is very thing I'v been look for"I LOVE IT"

Scooby!! Scooby!!! Doo!!!!!
"Don't be alone,order from these folks"
www.sporeworks.com
www.litshopofspores.com
www.geocities.com/micronmagick/


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Shroom tea got me all fryed up

Gilligannnn,the sikper too,marrr.....y...ann.........aaaaand..........OW Fuck it !!

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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: McMan]
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I've been considering the Hydropod and the discount is motivating.
I am but a "journeyman" with 70 something posts?
Am I eligible for the discount?
One other question that I meant to direct to the site.. can you put a casing in the pod?




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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: patzee]
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Your a member right and yes one small one I sure

Scooby!! Scooby!!! Doo!!!!!
"Don't be alone,order from these folks"
www.sporeworks.com
www.geocities.com/micronmagick/
www.myco-tek.com
www.lilshopofspores.com/


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Gilligannnn,the sikper too,marrr.....y...ann.........aaaaand..........OW Fuck it !!

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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: McMan]
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McMan I love the way you answer all questions about your products and when you answer a posted question.
You explain the whole works and when you are done it leaves me and hopefully others a feeling of confidence.
Thanks for doing that.

Dr Bluethumbs Old School Toadstools
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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: McMan]
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McMan,

I know that the future is hard to predict, and you don't know if you'll be selling these hydra-pods then, but I just wanted to know if you think you'll still be interested in growing mushrooms, and selling equiptment to help others grow.

Also, are there any pics of cakes growing in the pod? I'd love to see some results...

LEGALIZE...


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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: Shiznitz]
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Great product and a great price! can't beat it!
(I personally would rather use paypal then MO)

keep up the good work!


mix up the elixir...


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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: McMan]
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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: ]
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After a long time away from the Shroomey BB (cuz of the upgrade, etc.) it's good to be back.

McMan, good to see you back in the innovating biz. Good luck with the Hydro Pod.

Peace.

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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: McMan]
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McMan, have you cleared this cake growing kit with PF ?

I heard he was not happy about this and was bringing a gun to the next spore vendor meeting :wink:.

Great job, looks like a lot of fun :smile:

-Peace-
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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: Shiznitz]
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Ohhh silly me. It seemed that this thing was only for cakes. It just seemed so impractical to build such a fancy device for something as impractical as cakes (if your going to go to all that trouble why not just try bulk). I had forgotten other species. Buuuuut have any other species been grown successfully in "the hydro-pod"?

"I got that Fiya Powda" -- some black dude

"DXMHEAD420 ripped me off and was an ass about it too" -- Myself


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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: McMan]
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I call bullshit on the 2-3 ounces in 1 month from cakes. This is just like your previous statement of how the MC can produce 9 lbs in a month. You make it seem like you use BRF cakes in the first thread but now you scorn them? Why? Your words are smelly Mr. McMan.

And Mr. Mcman it is simply un feasable for it to produce those results. Unless the "bio-efficiency" (propably not the rihgt word but the ratio of dried mushrooms to the ammt of dried substrate) of your strain is much higher than that of other strains that most of us use. Is 10% the general rule? So 30 oz of dry straw. Will 2 lbs of dry straw even fit into the hydropod?

I'm not trying to give you hell this is just something new if we want to be scientific about this we must pose many questions to the presentor.

And does this system offer the same "air entertainment" as the previous MC? You say it does but yu went on about how there needed to be jets of air to circulate the air. Does the air move around well with all those rocks in the way?

"I got that Fiya Powda" -- some black dude

"DXMHEAD420 ripped me off and was an ass about it too" -- Myself


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"It must be your stamps girl... cause it aint your face" -- Juvenile

"Only in America does someone order a cheese burger, large fries, and a diet Coke" -- ?

"DXMHEAD420 ripped me off and was an ass about it too" -- Myself

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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: McMan]
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Hey McMan where did you get all the nifty clear dome tops for the hydro-pods?

Having a layer of pebbles at the bottom is a great idea b/c the c02 will sink but propably not as much with all that "air entertainment" but a good idea none the less. Do you have pics of the "guts" (the inside and how it works) of the hydro pod? It looks like there are places for pics on the features page but no pics. How many 1/2 pint cakes can happily fit in there?

"I got that Fiya Powda" -- some black dude

"DXMHEAD420 ripped me off and was an ass about it too" -- Myself


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"It must be your stamps girl... cause it aint your face" -- Juvenile

"Only in America does someone order a cheese burger, large fries, and a diet Coke" -- ?

"DXMHEAD420 ripped me off and was an ass about it too" -- Myself

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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: ]
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NuShroom posted a close-up of his cake in the hydra-pod over at the forest floor (the link in the post above)... Damn does that cake look healthy! LIke I said before, I can't wait to see pics of mushrooms growing in the pod... Good Job Mc...

LEGALIZE...


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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: McMan]
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THANKS!! I'm counting my pesos. Could you please tell me if there is a "warranty"??
If the Pod should need replacement parts, will you make them available in the future?
I'm assuming if something breaks down early on you'll back up your product. How "loud" is the
air pump?
I can finally grow shrooms..but I am constantly adjusting humidity, tweaking something here or there,
checking, rechecking. I got enough bins, coolers, pumps,bottles,misters, tubing to last me forever.
The time alone in Home Depot and Walmart over the last 6 months is worth the Hydropod.
The Hydropod looks like the solution. Easy Peasey.
Order coming.






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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: ]
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McMan, that MC you used to manufacture is truely impressive. I am humbled...:cool:

Secondly I feel the HydraPod addresses the needs of the newbie 'shroom grower (it's target audience) extremely well. It is priced competively for that market and they will get their money's worth. Also (as Workman implied) if I was going to do a 'test bed' for advanced recipe teks or finicky shroom species... HydaPod would be choice for that. Alot of you look at this design and say "I could build that for only a fraction of that cost". Probably..., we've all done that with other style terrariums. But give McMan due credit for an efficient and well thought out design that you would be borrowing your concepts from. Your going to see more and more of these around as the design becomes recognized for it excellence.

Support the FSR:smile:

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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: Shiznitz]
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Regarding the pics from NuShroom (link in a previous message) the size of that cake is very impresive on day#19. However the pic on day#22 appears, to me anyway, to be too wett. It looks like water droplets all over the fungus. From my limited knowledge, water droplets that big reduce fruiting big time.

MC is there a way of controlling how much water/humidity that the cakes receive if one determines that the cakes are too dry or too wett?

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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: McMan]
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MnMan I find it hard to believe that you are mis informed about bio-efficiency. You divide the dry mushroom weight, not wet weight, by the dry substrate weight. So a greater than 100% efficiency is obviously impossible. It's the same concept as paper chromatography and the retardation factor; impossible to be greater than 100%.

So are there any pics of the inside?

I thought about grain but you mentioned straw which is less dense than grain.

Once again you show no results in pics; only astronamical claims.

"I got that Fiya Powda" -- some black dude

"DXMHEAD420 ripped me off and was an ass about it too" -- Myself


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"Only in America does someone order a cheese burger, large fries, and a diet Coke" -- ?

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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: McMan]
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Actually I am unaware of your policy on pics other than you have never produced any substancial ones.

I posted my most intimate of pictures here and you woln't even post pics of your products doings. I am not asking for illegal mushroom pics just edibles would be sufficient but you woln't even do those.

And why do you calculate it with the wet weight? That just ruins the real %; with the wet weight your answer is totaly screwed up but it looks huge and nice. If you do it with the dry weight it is the real effeciency IE how much mushrooms are produced to how much substrate is used.

Enlighten me as to why one would use the wet weight.

"I got that Fiya Powda" -- some black dude

"DXMHEAD420 ripped me off and was an ass about it too" -- Myself


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"Only in America does someone order a cheese burger, large fries, and a diet Coke" -- ?

"DXMHEAD420 ripped me off and was an ass about it too" -- Myself

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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: McMan]
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Fanaticus has some info. about BE, which is taken from the Fungi Perfecti catalog...

BIOLOGICAL EFFICIENCY (from Fungi Perfecti Catalog)

Biological Efficiency is a term frequently used in the mushroom industry to describe yield potentials of mushrooms from various agricultural by-products (straw, sawdust, sugar cane bagasse, banana fonds and coffee plant wastes, to name a few). This formula was first developed by the Button mushroom (Agaricus) industry.

Simply put, a yield of 1 lb. of fresh mushrooms from 1 lb. of dry substrate is considered to be 100% Biological Efficiency.

Since mushrooms are approximately 90% water and the base substrate is typically raised to 75% moisture, 100% Biological Efficiency is equivalent to saying that 25% of the wet mass of the substrate is converted into fresh mushrooms.


McMan, you said that Paul had a new book come out in 2000; I was just wondering what book it was?

Edited by Shiznitz on 08/23/01 03:41 PM.



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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: Shiznitz]
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Yes enough about BE lets get back to the real topic. I can see why they do wet weight b/c agaricus mushrooms are not usually dried.

So McMan any pics of the guts of the cultivAtor. And where did you get the dome lid?

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"Only in America does someone order a cheese burger, large fries, and a diet Coke" -- ?

"DXMHEAD420 ripped me off and was an ass about it too" -- Myself

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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: McMan]
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Sorry for asking "top secret information." I didn't know why you didn't have any pics of the insides; just that you didn't. In the past you have been glad to show the great designs and the innerworkings of your contraptions. In the past you seemed proud to explain your machines and how they work.

You should have labeled it the "mystery bucket" and you have to buy it to see the inside.

And actually McMan all of the time I'm here I am getting paid for it. It's my job.

So no pics of edibles and no pics of the inside. People should call me the information bum because I usually ask questions IE bumming information.

Do I remind you of that guy in "happy gillmore"-- JACKASS

But for the sake of Psilocybes I think BE should be dry weight/by dry weight. And cubes have a higher water% than agaricus; so that is a higher margin of error. Dry weight is exact!

"I got that Fiya Powda" -- some black dude

"DXMHEAD420 ripped me off and was an ass about it too" -- Myself


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"It must be your stamps girl... cause it aint your face" -- Juvenile

"Only in America does someone order a cheese burger, large fries, and a diet Coke" -- ?

"DXMHEAD420 ripped me off and was an ass about it too" -- Myself

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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: McMan]
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Is there an exaust hole? If so where? Have you ever had problems with the cakes "wicking" up too much moisture from the geo-lite?

"I got that Fiya Powda" -- some black dude

"DXMHEAD420 ripped me off and was an ass about it too" -- Myself


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"It must be your stamps girl... cause it aint your face" -- Juvenile

"Only in America does someone order a cheese burger, large fries, and a diet Coke" -- ?

"DXMHEAD420 ripped me off and was an ass about it too" -- Myself

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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: McMan]
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Hehehehe!!!!Tell him how it is Mcman......LOL.


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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: ralphster44]
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Man, I need to check out the vendor forum more often! Cool shit.

MC--I think the clay pellets are the same thing I use for a hydroponics setup, those things are EXPENSIVE!!! I imagine 5 gallons of those things must take up a chunk of the purchase price.

Skipping the casing run has its appeal, certainly.

I really love the R2-D2 look; fits just about anyone's living situation! Cleaning any disasters would also be simple, fill the bucket with bleach water, wash the lid.

So I also take it that one would need to supply a hygrometer to calibrate the timer?

Congrats, can't remember the last time I heard Workman respond to a product :)


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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: McMan]
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Blasted! I thought I could get things from you by calling you a liar and a cheat! Then I ask questions to get things from you. But the one and only thing I desired from you ralph beat me to; and that was your most penetrated hole.

"I got that Fiya Powda" -- some black dude

"DXMHEAD420 ripped me off and was an ass about it too" -- Myself


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"Only in America does someone order a cheese burger, large fries, and a diet Coke" -- ?

"DXMHEAD420 ripped me off and was an ass about it too" -- Myself

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Re: Hydrapod discount for Shroomery Members... [Re: McMan]
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McMann thanks for the good info on gauging the humidity.

If I may ask a question on venting gasses in a sealed environment. This would pertain (I feel) to any type of sealed terrarium (non product specific) where an air pump is providing not only fresh air but also building up pressure in the sealed terrarium. At some point the pressure/air within the sealed environment will start looking for an exit. It will take the path of least resistance out, so placement of the exhaust/vent valve is not important in that respect. Placement MAY, however be very important in properly venting the CO2/O2 mix, versus mostly(?) CO2 (since CO2's heavyier and tends to sink). Do you feel just placing a regulated vent at the top is sufficient or would venting at the base of the sealed environment be more beneficial? Further, if you do place the vent low (which would be in proximity to the air pump/bubbler), wouldn't the fresh air most likely make a quick exit (path of least resistance) rather than properly mix with the old air in the sealed terrarium?  Thankyou for your time.

Support the FSR:smile:

Edited by Didjeridoo on 08/25/01 03:58 PM.


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What a weenie [Re: tom]
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Man, I've come across some unpleasant people in my time on this planet. You think I'd be used to it by now.

But every now and then I come across one who makes me sit up and shake my head.

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Re: What a weenie [Re: Phred]
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Lumonic

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Re: Post deleted by users_request [Re: McMan]
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Where in the world do I purchase that fantastic Hydro-pod growing chamber that I did 4 or 5 years ago? Mine went to a friend, and now I cannot find another anywhere, nor anything that compares to it. I loved that thing...so freakin' simple. those brown "little balls" (as I can't remember what they were really called) were great. I filled the bucket with water, checked the level now and again, and that was it...the cakes took care of themselves. Is there no other way to order one of those magnificent grow pods? Please...help direct me...everything thing else I see just looks like wayyy too much work and space consuming. I sincerely hope to hear from some of you fine folks. Sincerely Roan


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Man...I am at a lost here my friends...I'm in a position where I absolutely cannot grow anything without past so-called negative incidences coming back into play. I am a full-time graduate student, studying community health and psychology, and I've been feeling for sometime the need to reintroduce myself to my psychoactive spoor friends. I do not know who can help me. I live in a location that is very dry (Utah), and thus I am left alone. Do you have any ideas as to how an individual like myself might be introduced to such fine old friends again (that is, without actually having to leave the state)? I do miss them dearly...

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do you realize this post is four years old.

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McMan stopped making them and selling them.

The hydra-pod is not sold anymore.


There is a few sites selling knock offs of it though...if you look around you will find them...or someone might pm you a link.

I have seen a few original hydra-pods...sold on Ebay over the years.

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There is a home made version called the PMP (poor mans pod)

check it out...

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1303334/an/0/page/0

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I have one of the original hydra-pods.

and no its not for sale!~

:grin:

tc


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Laterz, Road

Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!

Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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backupwards said:
do you realize this post is four years old.


:rotfl: :rofl: :rofl2: lmao i love backwards up... I didn't even catch that when i looked at this post earlier


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