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 blissedout
 
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 Re: The advantage of a big PC  [Re: KaptKid]
#3751478 - 02/09/05 12:37 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah, I just have one of those Mirro 8qt pc's frow Wallyworld.  It does the job, for now. I just threw out 4 jars that had green mold in them. I guess it was a contamed print, because the inoculation process was uber-clean! Oh well, life goes on. Pcing some more, as we speak.
BTW, nice pc, Agar! 
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TM
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Re: The advantage of a big PC [Re: Prisoner#1]
#3751517 - 02/09/05 12:43 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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1. sure there is, leaving it on high for 90 minuts will keep you at 15psi but where does the water go, want to talk about over cooking?
2. regardless of the heat setting on the stove, too high and it's noisy and wasteful of both energy and water and can lead to complete evaporation
3. when monitored properly it should only allow minimal loss and you'll hear a hiss every few seconds
4. valves arent spewing steeam, rocker weights are.
5. they are both equal, the valve is less annoying
Your title says it all. The above proves it. Who was the genius that made YOU
a mod?
"leaving it on high for 90 minuts will keep you at 15psi but where does the water go, want to talk about over cooking?"
^^^ Leaving it on high????? 90 minutes?????? Are you CRAZY???
"regardless of the heat setting on the stove, too high and it's noisy..."
^^^ contradictory statement
#3 is correct, except you mean SET properly, not "monitored".
"valves arent spewing steeam, rocker weights are."
^^^ not if the heat is not set too high.
"they are both equal, the valve is less annoying"
^^^ a second contradictory statement.
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Prisoner#1
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Re: The advantage of a big PC [Re: TM]
#3751614 - 02/09/05 01:02 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
TripMeister said:
Your title says it all. The above proves it. Who was the genius that made YOU
a mod?
"leaving it on high for 90 minuts will keep you at 15psi but where does the water go, want to talk about over cooking?"
^^^ Leaving it on high????? 90 minutes?????? Are you CRAZY???
it seems to be what you implied, you gave no mention of monitoring and seem to be advising against it. a very dangerous practice, I OTOH recomend monitoring the PC
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TripMeister said:
Advantages to vent pipe/weight:
1) No heat adjustment required.
2) Maintains a perfect 15psi.
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"regardless of the heat setting on the stove, too high and it's noisy..."
^^^ contradictory statement
it was the folowup to #2 from yours, its far from contradictory,
"it maintains a perfect 15psi, regardless of the heat setting on the stove, too high and it gets noisy"... starting to see the direction?
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#3 is correct, except you mean SET properly, not "monitored".
a part of properly monitoring is adjusting the temperature so that it maintains
the correct pressure/temp...
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"valves arent spewing steeam, rocker weights are."
^^^ not if the heat is not set too high.
and your implication is that it doesnt matter, the weights are safe, valves are not as was your statement.
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"they are both equal, the valve is less annoying"
^^^ a second contradictory statement.
try reading a little deeper into it. all you're doing is trying to nit pick.
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Arp
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Re: The advantage of a big PC [Re: agar]
#3751682 - 02/09/05 01:18 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I got a valve and it works perfect.. I like the vacuum it creates aswell 
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Prisoner#1
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Re: The advantage of a big PC [Re: Arp]
#3751763 - 02/09/05 01:39 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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mine may have a stronger spring, I have about 2psi after it cools.
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 hyphae
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Re: The advantage of a big PC [Re: Prisoner#1]
#3752164 - 02/09/05 03:07 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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My 921 a couple years old has the weight also, I just wait for the giggle then adjust the heat and it's good to go no more giggling and a constant 15lbs. on the gauge no problem. Hey they both work just fine so lets relax and smoke some herb 
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Prisoner#1
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Re: The advantage of a big PC [Re: hyphae]
#3752300 - 02/09/05 03:31 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I know, I have one of each. I use the 925x the most because its pretty much hassle free but and I use the 921 for cooking and canning now.
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Magash
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Re: The advantage of a big PC [Re: agar]
#3753515 - 02/09/05 07:14 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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The factory that makes em will not be making the valve any more and suggest to coustmers to change to the weight. As far as which works better sorry I have no idea but the new ones come with a weight and other brands are changing to weights also. I have never used a valve so like I said I have no idea which is better but as long as it works does it matter?
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agar
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Re: The advantage of a big PC [Re: Magash]
#3753832 - 02/09/05 08:17 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Magash said:
The factory that makes em will not be making the valve any more and suggest to coustmers to change to the weight.
With regards to All American Sterilizers (not pressure cookers).
I politely & respectfully beg to differ that you are incorrect:
Go here (the manufacturer)web page Click on ALL-AMERICAN Aluminum Sterilizers:
Then click on ALL-AMERICAN Portable Sterilizers Replacement Parts.
Then scroll down to # 65, Control Valve - Fits ALL-AMERICAN Pressure Steam Sterilizers only (releases at 23-28 psi) $13.25
THIS VALVE: Which comes STANDARD on all AA Sterilizers. They have no plan to change it to a weight.
If they were to they could no longer advertise it as a "sterilizer".
Read the manufactures description & brochure:
HERE:
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Roadkill
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 Re: The advantage of a big PC [Re: agar]
#3754768 - 02/09/05 12:41 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Question bro
Is this the same part that was used on the older models?
Looks the same to me.
Might be worth picking one up if it is.
Thanks!~
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Magash
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Re: The advantage of a big PC [Re: agar]
#3754940 - 02/09/05 02:50 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Shit I should have read the whole post I was talking pressure cookers. I didn't think anybody was insane enough to spend the bucks on a sterilizer just for mushrooms. I guess if ya needed em in growing buds I'd be all over it I guess. 
But to be honest I don't think I'd give a shit as long as it worked.
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Arp
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Re: The advantage of a big PC [Re: Magash]
#3754988 - 02/09/05 03:19 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Is the valve/weight difference the only difference between the sterilizers and the cookers?
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Prisoner#1
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Re: The advantage of a big PC [Re: Magash]
#3755097 - 02/09/05 04:25 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Magash said:
I didn't think anybody was insane enough to spend the bucks on a sterilizer just for mushrooms.
an AA 925X for $100, I think it was worth it.
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Arp said:
Is the valve/weight difference the only difference between the sterilizers and the cookers?
no, most of the sterilizers have a built in heating element and temp control knob
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agar
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Re: The advantage of a big PC [Re: Magash]
#3756112 - 02/09/05 10:19 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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>>>>> to be honest I don't think I'd give a shit as long as it worked. <<<<<<<<
So true, so long as it works, I would not care what it was.
Over the years, I bought mine cheap. First AA I bought had the valve (not weight). It worked for the purpose. So, I have a "thing" for them & have always gone for what I knew worked well.
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agar
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Re: The advantage of a big PC [Re: Roadkill]
#3756154 - 02/09/05 10:31 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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>>>Is this the same part that was used on the older models?<<<<
It is EXACTLY the same & well worth picking up, IMHO.
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Roadkill
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 Re: The advantage of a big PC [Re: agar]
#3756190 - 02/09/05 10:42 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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agar said:
>>>Is this the same part that was used on the older models?<<<<
It is EXACTLY the same & well worth picking up, IMHO.
Thanks bro!
I'm gonna pick one up for the old AA #910.
I'm not sure the original one is operating properly.
The other night I was distracted and left the pc on the stove.
And it blew out the little black Overpressure Plug in the cover.
I had a replacement (black) Overpressure Plug...thank heavens.
TC
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Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!
Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.
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agar
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Re: The advantage of a big PC [Re: Roadkill]
#3756378 - 02/09/05 11:20 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nothing like the sound of a  SHOT GUN BLAST ....
in the kitchen..........
to make your day, ..........is there.
Years back, PC'ing late at night, sat on couch, burned blunt, fell asleep  , woke up by that  .
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Arp
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Re: The advantage of a big PC [Re: Prisoner#1]
#3756435 - 02/09/05 11:36 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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no, most of the sterilizers have a built in heating element and temp control knob
So the reason for the use of the valve is that it creates a vacuum afterwards so it wont suck in contaminated air? 
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agar
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Re: The advantage of a big PC [Re: Arp]
#3756471 - 02/09/05 11:41 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes & more. It is also very easy to adjust PSI with toggle valve.
With valve & dial heat control on stove, easy to get to & maintain PSI (QUICK).
After it's cooled some, but not quite & zero, easy to bleed off pressure to zero.
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Anand
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Re: The advantage of a big PC [Re: agar]
#3760276 - 02/10/05 11:41 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Would it be possible to Retro fit a AA910 into a Sterilizer?
I have the 1925X Sterilizer and just love it.... but would like a smaller one for agar and Sterilizing tools. As for adjusting it its easy: just twice a small adjustment and let it run for hours @ 17-20 PSI (which you can't with a weight)
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