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InvisibleKingOftheThing
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why is free speech so offensive??
    #3748226 - 02/08/05 12:01 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

isnt free speech a basic right we all should have?? it seems like everyone is scared of it and continually wants to censor..... people that are afraid of words are the ones we should be afraid of.


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Re: why is free speech so offensive?? [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3748236 - 02/08/05 12:03 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

yup...


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Re: why is free speech so offensive?? [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3748246 - 02/08/05 12:04 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I read your thread about the admins and the AG forum

if this is true, it's truly horrible


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Re: why is free speech so offensive?? [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3748264 - 02/08/05 12:07 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Very well said!  :thumbup:


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Re: why is free speech so offensive?? [Re: Dark_Star]
    #3748275 - 02/08/05 12:09 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

look at all the worst people in history...free speech is one of the first rights they take away...burning books, killing people who speak up... its both sides too... fascists on the far right and communists on the far left...


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Re: why is free speech so offensive?? [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3748304 - 02/08/05 12:13 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, we are in a very precarious situation right now, I just hope that enough eyes and minds open, and people start to fight for their rights before it's too late. I remember watching documentaries on Nazi Germany, Communist Russia, ect. in school, everyone in the class would say "how can the people be so stupid and not see what's going on?" and so on....... Now the same shit is happening here, and lo and behold, many of those same kids are ignoring it.  :nonono:


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Re: why is free speech so offensive?? [Re: Dark_Star]
    #3748358 - 02/08/05 12:23 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

free speech is absoluely trampled on over here


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Re: why is free speech so offensive?? [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3748375 - 02/08/05 12:25 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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KingOftheThing said:
isnt free speech a basic right we all should have?? it seems like everyone is scared of it and continually wants to censor..... people that are afraid of words are the ones we should be afraid of.




without a doubt. and it scares me every day.


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Re: why is free speech so offensive?? [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #3748682 - 02/08/05 01:06 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Is it really? It's easy to get all excited about shit, but when was the last time you were denied your right? When was the last time anybody you know what denied your right?

I'm normally on your side, but I'd like to hear some anecdotes. It's too easy to be a political doomsayer.


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Re: why is free speech so offensive?? [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3749252 - 02/08/05 02:58 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Those are dangerous words. We should get the government to stop people like you from saying stuff like that.


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Re: why is free speech so offensive?? [Re: freddurgan]
    #3749501 - 02/08/05 03:50 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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freddurgan said:
Is it really? It's easy to get all excited about shit, but when was the last time you were denied your right? When was the last time anybody you know what denied your right?

I'm normally on your side, but I'd like to hear some anecdotes. It's too easy to be a political doomsayer.





I know for a fact that if i got a mic and stood on a podium and spoke my mind i would be thrown in jail


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Re: why is free speech so offensive?? [Re: faslimy]
    #3749506 - 02/08/05 03:51 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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freddurgan said:
Is it really? It's easy to get all excited about shit, but when was the last time you were denied your right? When was the last time anybody you know what denied your right?

I'm normally on your side, but I'd like to hear some anecdotes. It's too easy to be a political doomsayer.





I know for a fact that if i got a mic and stood on a podium and spoke my mind i would be thrown in jail




How?


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Re: why is free speech so offensive?? [Re: Turd]
    #3749745 - 02/08/05 04:54 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

King of the thing, I didn't know you were into civil rights. I just thought you ran around at nelsons and party your azz off! You are right though. When are thoughts form words that go against the general consensus of the rich assholes in charge, are rights seem to always get pushed aside for the man with the money.


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Re: why is free speech so offensive?? [Re: HuffNPuff]
    #3750376 - 02/08/05 11:36 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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HuffNPuff said:
King of the thing, I didn't know you were into civil rights. I just thought you ran around at nelsons and party your azz off! You are right though. When are thoughts form words that go against the general consensus of the rich assholes in charge, are rights seem to always get pushed aside for the man with the money.




yeah we all agree...tell that to anno


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Re: why is free speech so offensive?? [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3750595 - 02/08/05 12:46 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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KingOftheThing said:
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HuffNPuff said:
King of the thing, I didn't know you were into civil rights. I just thought you ran around at nelsons and party your azz off! You are right though. When are thoughts form words that go against the general consensus of the rich assholes in charge, are rights seem to always get pushed aside for the man with the money.




yeah we all agree...tell that to anno


So this topic is about your personal grievance with an admin at the shroomery?  :thumbdown:

You have absolutely 0 rights here just for being here.  You have the right to access the webserver and post on the message board because the admins allow you to.  It is their server, their bandwidth; not yours.  I repeat, you have NO rights on the shroomery, except for those that the administration CHOOSE to give you.


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Re: why is free speech so offensive?? [Re: delta9]
    #3750616 - 02/08/05 12:53 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

You really don't know exactly what's going on here, before yoiu blast KOTT you should maybe throw down five and see what we are talking about.


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Re: why is free speech so offensive?? [Re: gdman]
    #3750626 - 02/08/05 12:56 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I don't have five to throw down or I would; but I know running webservers and forums and when it comes down to it, you only have the rights that the server and network administrators allow you to have, period.

So the forum is called "anything goes" and he went further than an admin was willing to allow; he feels disenfranchised because he spent $5 to get this slap in the face. I understand his side, but really, he has no standing ground.


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Re: why is free speech so offensive?? [Re: delta9]
    #3750724 - 02/08/05 01:31 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I think it is very misleading for them to have an "Anything Goes" forum as one of the "benefits" of buying a supporter account when its painfully obvious that "Anything" doesn't go. Seems to me that constitutes some sort of false advertising.

Things can get reallllly messy when money and pay accounts are involved. I have seen the complete demise of a few websites after they instituted pay accounts, and I would hate to see that happen to the shroomery.


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Re: why is free speech so offensive?? [Re: adrug]
    #3750742 - 02/08/05 01:36 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Holy shit! KOTT did something beyond what was allowed in the anything goes forum? Is that possible? I've seen some f'ed up shit in OTD which I thought was too far, I don't even want to think about what was posted.


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Re: why is free speech so offensive?? [Re: delta9]
    #3750807 - 02/08/05 01:59 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

first off anno and a few other admins outflanked THE CREATOR of the shroomery...i mean the guy who started this site in the first place. and to me im not exactly sure what words anno or whoever else is so afraid of that he has to censor and "Anything goes" forum.

the topic i created also goes beyond what is happening on this site...basically its also a comment on the world as a whole


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