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 Swami
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 Buddha Responsible for the Death of Jesus 
#3747097 - 02/07/05 06:39 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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The Buddha's teachings are responsible for the death of Jesus and Gandhi and MLK and others. His directive that "If you meet the Buddha on the road, you should kill him!" has led to the deaths of many great prophets and saints. Thanks a lot Siddartha. 
Because of this, most enlightened masters prefer to stay anonymous for their own saftey.
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Edited by Swami (02/07/05 06:48 PM)
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 Re: Buddha Responsible for the Death of Jesus [Re: Swami]
#3747111 - 02/07/05 06:42 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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that was not a directive of the buddha
it was a zen upshot's take on being hung up on ones own perfection.
but I do think buddhism is responsible for several dramatic exits from the S&P conference and hence the shroomery - they have been leaving in droves.
also mirrors are responsible.
(do I have to say IMHO or is it understood?)
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Re: Buddha Responsible for the Death of Jesus [Re: Swami]
#3747149 - 02/07/05 06:51 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Swami said:
The Buddha's teachings are responsible for the death of Jesus and Gandhi and MLK and others. His directive that "If you meet the Buddha on the road, you should kill him!" has led to the deaths of many great prophets and saints. Thanks a lot Siddartha.
Because of this, most enlightened masters prefer to stay anonymous for their own saftey.
how could one kill, one who's truly alive in death 
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Re: Buddha Responsible for the Death of Jesus [Re: Gomp]
#3748290 - 02/07/05 10:11 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Please keep my Buddha's name out of your mouth. that is a zen teaching told to meditation students, so that if they meditate and see a distraction or halluination, even the Buddha himself they are to ignore it or destroy it. Distractions are not good in meditation. not of any kind, meditation is about getting down to the primordial natural awareness that we all have beneath the layers of the conscious mind and ego. you misunderstood.
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Re: Buddha Responsible for the Death of Jesus [Re: ShroomDoom]
#3748967 - 02/07/05 11:52 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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ermm, believe you're just reading too deep into the teachings. Don't miss the forest for the trees.
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"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
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Re: Buddha Responsible for the Death of Jesus [Re: ShroomDoom]
#3749147 - 02/08/05 12:28 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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hmm not too sure it means that? it is simply just another quoan (sp?)
answers may vary depending on instructor/student relationship
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Re: Buddha Responsible for the Death of Jesus [Re: Swami]
#3749253 - 02/08/05 12:58 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Swami said:
Because of this, most enlightened masters prefer to stay anonymous for their own saftey.
Are you a 'closet-Buddha'?
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Re: Buddha Responsible for the Death of Jesus [Re: soulmotion]
#3749291 - 02/08/05 01:07 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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/tells Swami to come out of the closet
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"Their is one overriding question that concerns us all: How can we get out of the fatal groove we are in, the one that is leading towards the brink?" Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
-Substance over Style.
-Common sense is uncommon.
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Re: Buddha Responsible for the Death of Jesus [Re: soulmotion]
#3749415 - 02/08/05 01:31 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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*Swami hides turban and Nehru jacket*
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Re: Buddha Responsible for the Death of Jesus [Re: ShroomDoom]
#3749985 - 02/08/05 05:35 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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"Please keep my Buddha's name out of your mouth."
What makes your Buddha so special?
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Re: Buddha Responsible for the Death of Jesus [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#3750007 - 02/08/05 05:58 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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he tells some great stories..or at least great stories are told about him.
He ain't 'special' tho..is he? Unless we are all 'special'
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Re: Buddha Responsible for the Death of Jesus [Re: CJay]
#3750087 - 02/08/05 07:19 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was just curious about the reference to "my Buddha". Is the Buddha proprietary? Or is this a propriatary fork of an open source religion?
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Re: Buddha Responsible for the Death of Jesus [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#3750391 - 02/08/05 09:40 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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say buddha again and ill fuck yall up. messin up my path to enlightenment csuckers
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Re: Buddha Responsible for the Death of Jesus [Re: oceansize]
#3750416 - 02/08/05 09:49 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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"words are very, unneccessary.
They can only do harm!"
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Re: Buddha Responsible for the Death of Jesus [Re: oceansize]
#3750429 - 02/08/05 09:54 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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The connection between buddhas teaching and the death of jesus that you pose is weak at best. At worst, it's just plain crap. There were many social, political, and ideological conflicts that led up to jesus' execution, but Buddhism certainly had no part of it since no one in Isreal at that time had probably even heard of Buddha.
Try to understand the context of a phrase before you make assumptions like that.
Oh, yeah. Fuck Buddha, Christ, and the American flag! I shit on your symbols! They are only fetters!
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Re: Buddha Responsible for the Death of Jesus [Re: dr0mni]
#3755228 - 02/09/05 08:54 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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well...
it is quite possible that buddhist "missionaries" had reached alexandria in egypt by the time that jesus had his ministry...
and alexandria had a very strong jewish community (until all jews were expelled a few centuries later by the christian bishop there ;( ), as well as essene groups in the desert nearby (the healing brotherhood there called "theraputae") --- & some have suggested links between buddhists & essenes (although i think that a better case could be made for zoroastrian influences on essenic theological development...)
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but yes, the original poster's premise was specious at best, eh?
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Re: Buddha Responsible for the Death of Jesus [Re: gnrm23]
#3755466 - 02/09/05 10:19 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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im pretty sure he was joking....
although i could be wrong, i am new here.
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Re: Buddha Responsible for the Death of Jesus [Re: ShroomDoom]
#3755492 - 02/09/05 10:24 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
ShroomDoom said:
Please keep my Buddha's name out of your mouth.
Buddha. Buddha. buddha. Buddha. BUDDHa
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Re: Buddha Responsible for the Death of Jesus [Re: Zekebomb]
#3758041 - 02/09/05 06:58 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Zekebomb said:
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ShroomDoom said:
Please keep my Buddha's name out of your mouth.
Buddha. Buddha. buddha. Buddha. BUDDHa
hah. its still not in your mouth just on the computer screen
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Re: Buddha Responsible for the Death of Jesus [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#3758054 - 02/09/05 07:00 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Huehuecoyotl said:
"Please keep my Buddha's name out of your mouth."
What makes your Buddha so special?
my Shakyamuni Buddha is the Buddha of the human realm. he is the
one who brought dharma back to the people, which is pretty important but i guess hes no more special than the other Buddhas. it's still not nice to say he killed jesus, this is untrue.
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Re: Buddha Responsible for the Death of Jesus [Re: ShroomDoom]
#3758252 - 02/09/05 07:38 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Have a sense of humor.
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Re: Buddha Responsible for the Death of Jesus [Re: Swami]
#8277030 - 04/13/08 10:00 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Its not the teaching of any kind that should be to blame for anything, its those who take them literally and out of context. One is always left with their own discernment, we are responsible to see the truth in the words of others.
Again like others in this thread have said, this teaching is figurative, and clearly not for those of simple minds.
Another interesting point to note is that this teaching origionated long after the death of Jesus. Zen itself did not begin untill 700 years after his death.
As to staying anonymous, surely those enlightened in this day and age choose to stay anonymous due to persecution, on the otherhand they may just not reveal it because it is not nececearry to do so or may fuel ego. At any rate you cant blame the buddha, but only yourself for being ignorant.
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Re: Buddha Responsible for the Death of Jesus [Re: Gomp]
#8277059 - 04/13/08 10:11 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gomp said:
Quote:
Swami said:
The Buddha's teachings are responsible for the death of Jesus and Gandhi and MLK and others. His directive that "If you meet the Buddha on the road, you should kill him!" has led to the deaths of many great prophets and saints. Thanks a lot Siddartha.
Because of this, most enlightened masters prefer to stay anonymous for their own saftey.
how could one kill, one who's truly alive in death
That's a cool thought, and historically speaking, since you guys are pondering this, if one groks Davidson's studies of Dravidian gods who started the Zoroaster/Mani/Mithras/JudeoChristian were the original Yama/Yami or Death cults, who became the devils for the other religions. Thus with a hecatomb of sacrificial bulls in the Illiad the early dualists sought to propitiate Chronos or the new Zeus who vanquished his father, or Yama turned into the scapegoat that we see today by new deities such who influenced by Buddhistic Yamantaka/Vajrabhairava cults of mystics of the time were teaching Death-killing tantras, the bastardation of which probably became basic for dualistic new religions which have since flourished. It can never be said that commercial civilizations are especially wise or deep, thus the original tantras were lost to them, while the whole time they as yet existed in the Himalayas and some other slow places.
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