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Cow manure or Horse manure.
    #3746366 - 02/07/05 06:18 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Cow manure or Horse manure. Which do you prefer or which one you think is better? Or is there no real difference? I've searched and didn't find anything.


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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: mxdrk]
    #3746439 - 02/07/05 06:31 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Never tried cow but I've been told by many growers on here that horse is better. Keep in mind that they also said that there isn't a huge difference, but if you can get it, go with horse.


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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: mxdrk]
    #3746468 - 02/07/05 06:36 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

HORSE....is far better....IMHO.

Better texture, nicer smell, more consistant particle size in nuggets.

Most cow manure comes from dairies. Dairy cow feed & cows themselves are loaded up with odd additives, hormones & medications.


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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: agar]
    #3746479 - 02/07/05 06:39 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

:mushroom2:  agar,
  what is your opinion on donkey poo?  My folks have one, so I have an endless supply to the stuff.  :mushroom2:


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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: kingboomer]
    #3746487 - 02/07/05 06:40 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Donkey doo is as good as horse, if they feed donkey well.


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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: agar]
    #3746511 - 02/07/05 06:45 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

:mushroom2:  yeah, he eats sweet feed and hay (alfalfa I think).  Thanks, man!  :mushroom2:


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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: kingboomer]
    #3746524 - 02/07/05 06:48 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Then you are lucky dude to have such a supply. Many envy that position, especialy the city folks.


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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: agar]
    #3746570 - 02/07/05 06:57 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

I sure as hell do :frown:


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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3746789 - 02/07/05 07:36 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Scat......

I have never found a city that didnt have a few horse stables somewhere around. Same goes for their willingness to give to a bucket or truck load full.... FREE.

H/poo stores well in a tote in dry place. Get to looking. Lie, tell them its for Gramma's flower garden.

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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: agar]
    #3746888 - 02/07/05 07:50 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

not to worry, he has a starter pack in the mail


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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3747072 - 02/07/05 08:34 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

LOL @ shipping horsepoo! :lol:


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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3747182 - 02/07/05 08:59 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Horses are feed better than cows.Being more valued than cows.They get better and more grains.

I get,leach for 24 hours,dry, then grind up.

If you need horse poo pm me.Willing to trade.


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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: mxdrk]
    #3747212 - 02/07/05 09:05 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

LOL I dont need to have someone send me horsepoo. Its everywhere here.

I will try cowdung sometime too. There is a natural reserve here with old Cow races (Scottish Highland Cows) who feed on what nature has to offer. Introduced since other big grazers vanished (moose, elk). They are not for meat production, so they are treated WELL.

In the same reserve are also horses, the best horsedung in the area! :laugh:


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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: KaptKid]
    #3747252 - 02/07/05 09:13 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

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Horses are feed better than cows.Being more valued than cows.They get better and more grains.




what about grain fed beef? most horsed get a couple pounds of sweet feed and
graze the rest of the day. about 1/4 of their diets consist of grains. dairy
and beef cattle generaly are fed about 40% grain, 30% silage and 30% grazed.


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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3747263 - 02/07/05 09:15 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

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LOL @ shipping horsepoo! :lol:




it's sometimes inconvienient to get to a stable or there sometimes isnt someone
in the area with horses, it's a gift for a someone thats a greeat help in the forums.


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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: mxdrk]
    #3747353 - 02/07/05 09:35 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah its a cool gesture Prisoner, for a cool person and I hope he grows nice mushrooms on it. And in teh country you live I can imagine one does not want to be exposed to curious questions et all...

To me it just sounds kinda funny to send shit in a packagae. LOL I did ask my gf to give me horsepoo for X-mas. But she didnt... ;P
Got it meself then! :laugh:

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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3747476 - 02/07/05 10:08 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

I used to go hunting on peoples farms for mushrooms, I always told the farmers
what I was there for, 9 out of 10 times they still allowed me to hunt for them
and many knew the best places to look, I have yet to find one that isnt aware
of psilocybes and what they are.


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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: mxdrk]
    #3747528 - 02/07/05 10:19 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

While they knew the mushrooms were "illegal"?

You know how I envy the situation you live in! (acres of land horses etc...)


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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3747632 - 02/07/05 10:35 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

most of them had eaten them, several kept me company while I picked....


the messed up thing about my situation, I no longer grow and have plenty of supplies to do it. I do have a friend that still grows and we kick about a few ideas and such, I provide him with a little poo and grains.


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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3747894 - 02/07/05 11:11 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

horse manure has a much better consistency as cattle process what they eat in a little more intensive way. Horse manure that has aged in a stall can be pasturized and easily crumbled into the perfect substrate. To be honest you can use it in 1/2 pint jars to spawn straw cakes made from a 6 pack cooler and the results will blow your mind


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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: thenetherworld]
    #3748071 - 02/07/05 11:38 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Well how come in the wild like here in MS, more cubes grow on cow poo more than they ever do on horse shit?


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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #3748284 - 02/08/05 12:10 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Probably location or animal feed.
Perhaps you guys know what to feed dem cows :thumbup:


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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3748313 - 02/08/05 12:15 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

I cant fit a cow or horse in my yard but I've been thinking of getting a couple of rabbits and feeding em some spores just to see if anything would happen :wink:


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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #3748395 - 02/08/05 12:28 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

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Well how come in the wild like here in MS, more cubes grow on cow poo more than they ever do on horse shit?




enzymes in the stomaches of the cows as well as the fact that ruminant digestive
tracts process the hell out of what they eat, the benefit os having 4 stomaches
as opposed to one.


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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3748413 - 02/08/05 12:31 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

See, prisoner had to come and piss on all our speculation with that technical bullshit :P

Nice info pris thanks

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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: ADoobie]
    #3748447 - 02/08/05 12:35 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

So why do ppl use horse poo over cow poo indoors? Not trying to be a smart ass or anything just wondering why? Thanks guys.


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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: ADoobie]
    #3748939 - 02/08/05 01:47 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

sorry man, I'll cut out all this techie farmer talk.


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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: thenetherworld]
    #3749380 - 02/08/05 03:24 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Scatmanrav i live in the centre of a city to! to farms os stables!
but i e-mailed the zoo yesterday and they told me to go anytime to take some horse poo+straw :cool:
do the same man!


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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3749992 - 02/08/05 07:45 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Some cool farmers! They aint crazy! :grin:

Ah if you want to help another starter out... :wink: :lol:

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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3750647 - 02/08/05 01:03 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Yah I just emailed my zoo and they no longer make manure avaiable to the public, bastards... I am thinking about just asking some people with horses about 1 or 2 miles from my home. I rember that some old site used to sell a blend of sheep and buffalo manure. They claimed that sheep manure is by far the best. I can't find that site anymore though.


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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: mxdrk]
    #3750656 - 02/08/05 01:05 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah just say that you think its awesome ingredient for your compost!


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    #3750667 - 02/08/05 01:10 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

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Yah I just emailed my zoo and they no longer make manure avaiable to the public,




ask them what they do with it, they have to dispose of it some how and generaly they are having to pay for disposal.


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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3750687 - 02/08/05 01:19 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

What is it that makes horse shit so good. I'v lived in the country for 13 years and have never seen shrooms on horse shit. I just kind of wanted to know why this is.


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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: Shr00mycelium]
    #3750700 - 02/08/05 01:23 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

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What is it that makes horse shit so good. I'v lived in the country for 13 years and have never seen shrooms on horse shit.




because horses dont use all the nutrients from their food, it's not completely digested so it's a little more easily colonized

dont eat these, cubes rarely grow from horse poo but there are several species
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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3753548 - 02/09/05 12:18 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Weird how that works, horse poo better indoors but naturally, cow poo.

Yes prisoner is being wonderful enough to send me a little thing of poo to try out. I've really had a tough time finding it. Theres one place here with 2 horses (if you can call the sickly little old one a horse anymore :smile: ) but they use it themselves for gardening (huge fruit garden out back, maybe more in the garden, can't tell, its a big sucker though..maybe they sell produce) but that was the only place I could find. Zoo's are a good idea but I dont know of any near me...I havnt really looked though.

Hopfully I will be growing some pan cyans out on the poo though. I have also been a little worried about the size of the poo. Like how much poo can I fit in a garbage bag? I go through a bit of substrate every month and grain comes up dried and in pretty small bags (a bag of rye and bag of WBS) and lasts be a while so I'm not carrying tons of poo and straw up the stairs of my apartment in the middle of my town where all the cops sit to catch people speeding by the town hall. I suppose I could do it fairly easily...we just have to be carful at the apartment with things that come in and out of the house and drawing suspicion ect. I'm more worried about that then what the farmer will say though. I can always play stupid like my girlfriends into gardeing, I dont know anything about it, couldnt answer any questions, I'm just doing a favor. But then carrying like 4 trashbags off poo in the apartment every week  or something makes me worried.

I am a little paranoid but I am also just getting off probation on the 12th of this month (from the last two years)..I've got some reason to be carfull at least..


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Re: Cow manure or Horse manure. [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3753569 - 02/09/05 12:22 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

congradulations on your freedom... if it stops raining for a couple of days I'll be picking poo for ya, and rocks for myself (garden time)


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