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Offlinecybin28
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casing questions?
    #3743383 - 02/07/05 01:07 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Has anyone ever cased with just brf and verm, if so how was it?


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Re: casing questions? [Re: cybin28]
    #3743403 - 02/07/05 01:11 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Just like every other sub., minus the monsters...
It def. produces more than cakes....But I have seen some cakes put casing to SHAME...but they knew what they were doing...But yea, it works :thumbup:...however your 2-3 flushes wouldn't be as big as using poo or something that has lots of nutes....:thumbup:

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Re: casing questions? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3743414 - 02/07/05 01:12 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

ok thanks for the info.


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Re: casing questions? [Re: cybin28]
    #3743444 - 02/07/05 01:17 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

casing with brf and verm? do you mean brf cakes and straight verm?


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Re: casing questions? [Re: Taskenti]
    #3743471 - 02/07/05 01:22 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I was assuming that he meant Brf cakes...Whoops :grin:

Don't case with that...Casing layers are only meant to hold in moisture...You don't want nutes(brf) in your casing layer...
Striaght verm. works just fine...But I use a random mix(about 60/40) of coco-coir and verm...
Sry for the mix up :shrug:

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Re: casing questions? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3743478 - 02/07/05 01:24 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

how much egg shells should you add to casings with coco/verm to increase later flushes?


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Re: casing questions? [Re: Taskenti]
    #3743555 - 02/07/05 01:38 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Aren't they suppose to help with Ph balance?

Donno if you should put them in casing mixes...They make roses redder and bigger...hm...Well i guess they'd work in your sub., but why in the casing layer if it's only to hold moisture?...

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Re: casing questions? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3743576 - 02/07/05 01:42 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Your supposed to add ph buffers to the casings...but people so you dont have to with coco/verm BUT you could add a long term buffer to it to increase later flushes


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Re: casing questions? [Re: Taskenti]
    #3743637 - 02/07/05 01:51 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Ahh....But if you have a rather neutral ph wouldn't you be fine...or do mushies tend to like it more base...lol..Basers Lol...
And eggshells would make it more base correct?...


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Re: casing questions? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3743661 - 02/07/05 01:54 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I think the myc puts off waste that changes the ph making the ph change from what it was originally. and then that affects your yields.


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Re: casing questions? [Re: Taskenti]
    #3743681 - 02/07/05 01:57 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Byproducts..?...Yea, stupid mycelium *shakes fist*

Doesn't sound like a bad idea...Would you crush up the egss shells?...Like dust and use that? I'm intersted now, sounds like an idea :thumbup:


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Re: casing questions? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3743732 - 02/07/05 02:06 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

The idea is already here on the shroomery..I forget who mentioned it...Im just trying to figure out how much you are supposed to add and all that


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Re: casing questions? [Re: Taskenti]
    #3744088 - 02/07/05 04:15 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

You need to powder the eggshells. Same as powdered oyster shell, chalk or calcium carbonate. With coir/verm you probably only need 1 tsp. per quart of casing mix, up to 1 tbsp. You cant add to much really since it just puts the ph to right around neutral and keeps it that way as the mycelium secretes its shit. I just eye ball it and dump a bunch in..about 2-3% of the casing mix.

With peat you should add a little more and perhaps a little hydrated lime for quick action STRONG buffering. If you dont powder whatever your using they wont break down well enough.


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Re: casing questions? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3744331 - 02/07/05 07:45 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

As the mushroom and mycelium grows there will be a drop of pH from the excreted metabolites until the pH reaches 5.0-5.5 at which time mushroom production will generally cease.

Egg shells are primarily made of calcium carbonate (limestone). The finer you powder them, the quicker they will buffer. Best to use some like flour, some like sand - size. That way you get quicker acting, as well as longer lasting.


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