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OfflineMycoJunkie
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Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing?
    #3742536 - 02/06/05 08:42 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)


A mild stomache ache? Hopefully one that isn't too bad...

I hope this is the same kind of green mold that grows on bread, lol. Anyway, has anyone tried eating shrooms off of a green mold contaminated casing/cake?

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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3742556 - 02/06/05 08:44 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Well I assume you will have pain and agony for quite a few hours, then "mild" symptoms for the next few days, with most likely bloody shit.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: balls]
    #3742568 - 02/06/05 08:46 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

just dont do it man.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: LethalX5]
    #3742575 - 02/06/05 08:47 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

This dude on my grow log said that his friend has eaten shrooms from a green molded casing many times with no ill effects.

If its the same green mold that grows on bread, then I should be fine.

Neither of y'all have ever tried it, so I'd like to hear from someone who has...


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3742595 - 02/06/05 08:51 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I did a couple of times.. the green mold seems to give off some sort of secretion
that the mushies pick up, the trip was definately less pleasant, I didnt feel
well through the whole trip and it took a couple of days for my body to start
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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3742598 - 02/06/05 08:53 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

worst case scenario.... u hav a terrible trip and then u hav explosive bloody dihareea for a week before ur liver shuts down and gives you a slow, painful death.


worst case.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3742608 - 02/06/05 08:54 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

This is my first grow tho! THESE ARE MY ONLY FRUITS!!

I'm desperate. Was it really that horrid? Anything else to say?
I wish I could get more info/advice. Did the mold make you feel shitty for the couple of days after the trip?


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: 4hodmt]
    #3742617 - 02/06/05 08:56 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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4hodmt said:
worst case scenario.... u hav a terrible trip and then u hav explosive bloody dihareea for a week before ur liver shuts down and gives you a slow, painful death.


worst case.




Dont tell me that shit bitch!

Damnit! Now I'm starting to doubt my shrooms.  Fucking green mold!!!!  :mad2: :mad2: :mad2: :nonono: :nonono: :nonono: :nonono: :confused:

Does anybody who has done them really think Ill die off of them, or get really fucked up?


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3742642 - 02/06/05 09:00 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/biopesticides/ingredients/factsheets/factsheet_119200.htm

Quote:
"III. ASSESSING RISKS TO HUMAN HEALTH
There are no expected health risks from use of products containing this active ingredient if label directions are followed. Laboratory data indicate that no adverse effects are expected when people eat food treated with this T-39 strain of the Trichoderma fungus. However, there is a potential for eye and skin irritation and adverse acute lung effects for workers who mix, load and apply the pesticide products, or who enter a treated field within 12 hours of spraying. The lung effects do not appear to be due to the fungus itself, but may be caused by the inert substance present in the single registered product. EPA requires that workers wear goggles, long sleeved shirts, long pants, shoes, socks, and respirators to protect their eyes, skin, and lungs.
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If the mold that infected my casing is Trichoderma harzianum Rifai Strain T-39 I should be alright.


http://www.mandet.com/MOLD.htm
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Other chemical substances they produce as growth by-products can be toxic to humans; these are known as "mycotoxins". The old Soviet Union used mycotoxins produced by two particular fungi, Stachybotrys and Trichoderma, as a chemical warfare agent. There was speculation that Saddam Hussein used these same mycotoxins, probably acquired from the Soviets, against the Kurds in northern Iraq prior to the Gulf War."


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3742654 - 02/06/05 09:03 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Bread molds are Aspergillus and Penicillium what your talking about is most likely the trich (Trichoderma) which is not known to be pathogenic but I'd try to set yourself on the right path instead of a path to self destruction. You know green mold today pink mold tomorrow XXXXX.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: hyphae]
    #3742687 - 02/06/05 09:10 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

yea i was going to say, u die


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: beav]
    #3742710 - 02/06/05 09:15 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Thats why the mean green is so hated....If you could just eat some shrooms that had contams on the cake/casing then you wouldn't have to worry so much about sterility.. Dude just start over, it's not worth the risk. Cut your losses and start over, don't eat shrooms from a contamed cake/casing.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: beav]
    #3742713 - 02/06/05 09:16 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I wouldn't eat a shroom growing off something that Ive eaten before, off of bread. If its black mold... Then Im probably fucked. I dunno man, hard decision. It could be 100% safe, but it could also be fatal.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3742728 - 02/06/05 09:19 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Deaths gona come fast enough.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: KaptKid]
    #3742733 - 02/06/05 09:20 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah dude, but death at age 18 has got to suck.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3742734 - 02/06/05 09:21 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I wouldn't do it, but if you are hell bent on it, we really can't stop you. If you dry them out AS MUCH AS YOU CAN I bet you could reduce the activity of the mold. cracker dry.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: chocbruce]
    #3742793 - 02/06/05 09:31 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

are you stupid man ... don't eat it ... C'mon, did you really need us to tell you that?


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3742797 - 02/06/05 09:32 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

MycoJunkie said:
I'm desperate. Was it really that horrid?





I would compare it to chewing a handful of morning glory seeds that are coated
to stop people from eating them... it wasnt very pleasan at all.


Quote:

Did the mold make you feel shitty for the couple of days after the trip?




yes. normaly I feel fine the next morning


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3742823 - 02/06/05 09:37 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Fock.

Its decisions like these that make you or break you(r fucking liver).


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3742835 - 02/06/05 09:39 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

It shouldn't even be a decision you have to make dude. It's common sense. I don't debate on whether or not I should jump off a cliff, I don't see how this is much different.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: jonas]
    #3742848 - 02/06/05 09:42 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Lol.

Goddamnit.. you ppl are making me not want to eat these fucking shrooms.

FUCK!


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3742861 - 02/06/05 09:44 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

ok, you pull the month old pizza out of the fridge, do you eat it?


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3742864 - 02/06/05 09:45 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Whatever dude, not to be a dick but if you'd even consider eating that mushroom, maybe it'd be better for you to respectfully remove yourself from the gene pool.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3742871 - 02/06/05 09:46 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Damn... Good question.  If it made me trip, I'd eat it.

If you were in some desolate, isolated, barren environment, you had no food.. Would you eat a loaf of green molded bread? I would.  But shit.. this doesn't help me w/ my situation.

Damnit Jonas, why do you have to be a mofo and look out for me by saying something refering to my beloved darwin's theory :frown:


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3742898 - 02/06/05 09:49 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

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Damn... Good question. If it made me trip, I'd eat it.




you are desperate... dont allow yourself to be like that over a drug.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3742919 - 02/06/05 09:55 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

See what I'm stuck on is the fact that this almost went un noticed...It didn't smell and had no signs of contam at the top of the casing, he pretty much had to break it apart to notice that it was contamed... How can you be SURE that you don't have a contamed casing without ripping it apart??


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3742921 - 02/06/05 09:55 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

You bastards are all right, pun intended.

Goddamn green mold. I'm going to murder your spores in their sleep.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3743049 - 02/06/05 10:17 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

*IDEA* Do you think that soaking the shrooms in, say, orange juice, might help to kill contams and neutralize toxins?

Maybe just extract the magic with methanol. that willkill the bad stuff and give you the goodstuff.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: Darkie]
    #3743196 - 02/06/05 10:43 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Orange juice wouldn't do anything. Even if you did kill the mold on the mushroom, you can't know if it absorbed any of the toxins. It's not worth the risk. If you're dumb enough to eat them you deserve whatever happens to you.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: jonas]
    #3743447 - 02/06/05 11:17 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Yea....And green mold on bread is different from green mold on shrooms...Someone previsouly pointed that out but i'm guessing that you missed that...I agree.You should never let a drug have you in its hand to the point where you'd risk getting sickly from or dying(rare) from...It's just not worth it....But if your wanting it that bad...Do as you desire....But beware...You'll hate yourself in the moring.....But regardless, good luck on w/e you choose to do....

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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3743981 - 02/07/05 01:36 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Chances are ok thatd youd eat them and be fine or mildly sick. Chances are pretty good youd feel at least mildly to pretty sick. Worse case, you die.

I sure wouldnt let a drug make me act like that man. You can have mushrooms in like 6-8 weeks if you start a new grow now..not so horrible to not have to risk it.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3744153 - 02/07/05 02:37 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Damn!!! I hate seeing the blind leading the blind.

Only healthy mycelium can produce mushrooms. Once green mold attacks a casing
or a cake the mycelium stops producing the shrooms and tries to fight the
attack instead. Of course, the green mold ALWAYS wins, however, the mushrooms
don't "absorb" any toxins. Green mold isn't toxic anyway.

A healthy Cubensis mushroom is ALWAYS edible!!

I have eaten healthy first flush shrooms that were picked after mold was
noticed on the casing. I have done it MANY times. NO ILL EFECTS WHATSOEVER.

Enjoy your shrooms, dude. Don't listen to these inexperinced speculators.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: TM]
    #3744166 - 02/07/05 02:42 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Funny then what makes mushrooms grow like this if the casing is contaminated?



Those are odd for the strains and seems to signify that just because they grew off healthy mycelium this underneath:

had some sort of affect.

Or do you attribute the hollow thin whithered mushrooms to something else?


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3744176 - 02/07/05 02:46 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Also theres certain other things that you may not know about a person, and the person may not know about themselves, such as alergies. I'm allergic to penicilin and recently found out. I'm pretty sure theres a mold out there that produces it and theres a chance that could be absorbed by the mushrooms..not something I'd personally be willing to risk. Thats just me though..I stick to my bud and my nice safe healthy looking mushrooms.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3744188 - 02/07/05 02:53 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I gotta say something...I have NEVER once heard of someone being poisioned or dying from an edible(or hallucinogenic mushroom) and plenty have eaten from casings that had green...I have even...as long as theres no green touchin the shroom and it looks healthy I have np's with it..I don't believe that shit about the mushroom absorbin the poisons....it would be all over the news about how dangerous it is to grow shrooms :smile:

not to mention shrooms can get bacteria contams that you don't even know about that are harmless(or so I've read) until I see proof I never believe anything



this casiing right here I could not stop the contams(kept saltin tho) I just got a flush in time before it was toaste..I have successfully killed mold on a casing layer but on the poo there didn't seem to be a chance


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3744202 - 02/07/05 03:01 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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Funny then what makes mushrooms grow like this if the casing is contaminated?






Environmental inconsistancies and/or incorectness can cause deformites as
you're displaying. Depends on strain, substrate, casing, water hardness, etc.

The one between your fingers stopped growing several days before the pic was
taken. It's beginning to rot inside.

Quote:


Those are odd for the strains and seems to signify that just because they grew off healthy mycelium this underneath:

had some sort of affect
Or do you attribute the hollow thin whithered mushrooms to something else?




Note that the small area of what I call "toothpaste mold" is far from the
shrooms and that the shrooms are very small and have stopped growing.
Picking them before they begin to rot is what I do and then I toss the casing.
No matter how hard you try to save a casing that has "toothpaste mold", you'll
fail. The shrooms it has produced are safe to eat as long as you pick them
when they're fresh. Never eat rotting shrooms, they'll give you a really bad
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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #3744205 - 02/07/05 03:02 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

"Some Aspergillus species are toxic. Aspergillus flavus, a yellow to yellowish green species, produces the deadly aflatoxins. A. flavus attacks cottonseed meals, peanuts and other seeds high in oil that have been stored in hot, damp environments. Of all the biologically produced toxins, the aflatoxins are the most potent hepatacarcinogens yet found. The toxicity of this species was largely unknown until, in 1960, 100,000 turkeys mysteriously died from an outbreak of this disease in Great Britain.
Since A. flavus grows on practically all types of grain, this species is of serious concern to mushroom spawn producers. "

Thats about one type of green mold of like dozens. This stuff doesnt sound fun to have, on the substrate, or near the mushrooms. Often the visable part of the mold (the green part) is the spores and the mold is much deaper then it looks. Maybe the mold spread to the shrooms and just isnt sportulating yet?

Like I said, theres an ok chance nothing would happen. I have heard of people, like prisoner, who say they felt sick after words, so theres a chance of this too. But to say theres no chance of someone being posioned or dying from eating a mushroom from a particular contamination on a casing (like described above) I think is hasty. Especially considering there's always alergic reactions.

Yeah chances are slim as hell you'll die...but the chances arent so horrible that you'll get really sick.. so is it worth it to you to find out?


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3744337 - 02/07/05 05:50 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

ewwwwww! i wouldnt even chance it


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: psychedelic_sam]
    #3744532 - 02/07/05 08:28 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

would you eat the bread with mold on it???


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: thedjrave]
    #3744604 - 02/07/05 09:16 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

If you are getting fruits...

Use syran wrap to phisically seporate the developing mushrooms from the contamination. (Mold spores "Shoot" to thier new destination, they don't fall.)

When the veils break, quickly transfer those to a jar for spore collection.

Use those spores for your next batches. (You still have a slight chance of contamination, but that may be your only resort. Catch them quicker next time!)

Fruit your next ones inside plastic bags, and never remove them from the bag. Just put an "X" shaped hole where you want the fruit to rise from after the bag has colonized. Mushrooms will grow from that hole, and contamination will stay inside the bag, away from the mushrooms.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: thedjrave]
    #3744609 - 02/07/05 09:19 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

what about the blue / green moulds found on cheese?!?

I eat those. Yet theyre not trich


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: Flashman]
    #3744626 - 02/07/05 09:30 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I say eat it. Keep in mind that most people on this board (and any internet forum really) are very anal. They will tell you that your mushrooms wont grow if you don't fan and mist them 50 times a day, anyting below 70 F won't grow anything, etc, etc.


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    #3744628 - 02/07/05 09:32 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: ShroomGuy86]
    #3744638 - 02/07/05 09:37 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

cheese i cut the mold off and its ok cheese ferments/ages this way
bread i throw it out
im not saying its bad for you i just wouldnt eat it
guacamole is one thing but eating something green and looking like this stuff gets to looking not for me


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: psychedelic_sam]
    #3744691 - 02/07/05 10:00 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: agar]
    #3745353 - 02/07/05 12:40 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Well, ya know. Seeing as I was gonna trip at my uncles ranch, I'm not even gonna take the chance. It would suck to have ur nephew die, or get really fucking sick at your ranch. I'd be stupid to take those shrooms. I can't do it.

Im gonna have to wait another couple of months...
SON OF A BITCH!

Here is quote from the link Agar gave, after I searched for Trichoderma:
"Very few human cases due to Trichoderma have been identified. Trichoderma infections are opportunistic [834] and develop in immunocompromised patients, such as neutropenic cases and transplant recipients, as well as patients with chronic renal failure, chronic lung disease, or amyloidosis. Peritonitis [295], pulmonary, perihepatic, and disseminated infections [1767] have so far been reported."

But, eh. I won't even fuck with 'em. I don't like the idea that there could be mold growing inside of me.


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    #3745366 - 02/07/05 12:43 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: ShroomGuy86]
    #3745379 - 02/07/05 12:45 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Well, mushrooms may not be made of cheese, but thats not to say that what grows on shrooms won't grow on cheese, or bread, or agar for that matter.

In any case, ShroomGuy86, you're right man. There is no need to take the chance, I'm not desperate enough to die. I found fruits growing on the inside of my casing.. Which ive never seen before, or even heard about before. They were pretty deep inside too, curled around themselves and shit, and mutated. The green was rampant through the casing. I'm not gonna fuck with it.

Dying at my favorite uncles ranch = Un cool.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3745434 - 02/07/05 12:57 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Hey guys, part of the ritual of consuming the knowledge is nurturing and loving a perfect specimen. I always look at contam as a bad omen and a sign that things just aren't meant to be...yet.
This is powerfull shit if done right and possibly screwing with what nature made perfect is just lazy and stupid.
Get your shit together man and get rid of that contamination. Babysitting that mold is only making your future attempts less likely to succeed.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: Newf]
    #3745462 - 02/07/05 01:02 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Wow....Just thought that i'd say...

I reallyfucking hate ignorant morons, you can take your comments and go fuck yourself, ignorant myass...jaughingjim and scat are 2 very respected peeps on this mb...

Next time try not to come across as such an asshole and people will take what you say into consideration...

Green mold on bread and CHEESE is nothing compared to Tric., It's different...go do some research and then try an argue your statement....w/e, done with this thread

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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3745580 - 02/07/05 01:30 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

The worst thing that can happen...well a final trip, DEATH...except you cant come back from that one,......


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: Steel27Odin]
    #3745667 - 02/07/05 01:46 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

i know i'm late to the thread, but i wanted to say that even if you would risk sickness over a drug, bear in mind what kind of a trip it would be.

imagine the horror of the depths of hell that is a strong trip with food poisoning. say your trippin... floating through the galaxy, dancing on clouds, and suddenly youve got diahhreah and vomiting, i think it would be a life altering experience.


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    #3749228 - 02/08/05 12:49 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: Elahrairah]
    #3750279 - 02/08/05 09:00 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Oh damm add blood to the scenario and you have yourself a nightmare to top them all.
I know too many people who wouldn't even think twice to eat them... but those are the same people stealing cough syrup from walgreens to vomit and trip.
If you do it... write a log about it, maybe you can help someone else. :syringe:


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Elahrairah said:
i know i'm late to the thread, but i wanted to say that even if you would risk sickness over a drug, bear in mind what kind of a trip it would be.

imagine the horror of the depths of hell that is a strong trip with food poisoning.  say your trippin... floating through the galaxy, dancing on clouds, and suddenly youve got diahhreah and vomiting, i think it would be a life altering experience.




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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: Shroomtakular]
    #3753240 - 02/08/05 09:37 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I am flattered... I will tell jaughingjim and his twin LaughingJim that you said that. :smile:

Scat and Agar and Prisoner and Trip are my favorites, but there are so many others...

Thank you for this Emmy... ( Sarcasm :smile: )

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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: TM]
    #3753770 - 02/08/05 11:04 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

TripMeister said:
Quote:

scatmanrav said:
Funny then what makes mushrooms grow like this if the casing is contaminated?






Environmental inconsistancies and/or incorectness can cause deformites as
you're displaying. Depends on strain, substrate, casing, water hardness, etc.

The one between your fingers stopped growing several days before the pic was
taken. It's beginning to rot inside.

Quote:


Those are odd for the strains and seems to signify that just because they grew off healthy mycelium this underneath:

had some sort of affect
Or do you attribute the hollow thin whithered mushrooms to something else?




Note that the small area of what I call "toothpaste mold" is far from the
shrooms and that the shrooms are very small and have stopped growing.
Picking them before they begin to rot is what I do and then I toss the casing.
No matter how hard you try to save a casing that has "toothpaste mold", you'll
fail. The shrooms it has produced are safe to eat as long as you pick them
when they're fresh. Never eat rotting shrooms, they'll give you a really bad
stomach ache along with nausea and excessive gas.




These shrooms grew like this. Withered from the start and hollow when you squeezed them. They did stop growing a few days before, you are correct but they didnt look any better at that point. Had no idea what the problem could have been at the time. They were hollow and looked like mutated pins. My mushrooms all get the same condidtions, in the same closet, and that was done from a liquid culture that was done to do another 58 jars or so that all came out fine so I dont see how onditions could be the factor when the only thing different is the middle of the casing being solid mold.

Not sure about the whole toothpaste think but it was black pin head mold and some sort of green...

I didnt eat any of the shrooms pictured BTW, I posted about eating them and Hyphaes words of "You could eat them without something happening probably, but maybe something would. I'm just not that desperate for shrooms" or something to that effect...I just tossed the whole casing, I dont try and save contaminated ones either, just not worth it to lose a whole closet.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: 4hodmt]
    #5274847 - 02/07/06 07:36 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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hey,worst case scenario.... u hav a terrible trip and then u hav explosive bloody dihareea for a week before ur liver shuts down and gives you a slow, painful death.


sounds ok to me!!!! lol  :magichat: :magichat: :magichat:


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: shroomsynergy]
    #5274924 - 02/07/06 07:56 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

shroomsynergy, check the dates on threads before posting if you're using the search function or surfing through related posts. This one is like exactly a year old.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5274935 - 02/07/06 08:00 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I have eaten plenty of shrooms from a green molded casing, I cut around green mold, when I get to the point that I dont see any green shit in substrate I pick the shrooms that are left and toss the casing, or bury it in my outdoor section.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5274943 - 02/07/06 08:02 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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tiny_rabid_birds said:
shroomsynergy, check the dates on threads before posting if you're using the search function or surfing through related posts. This one is like exactly a year old.



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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5275072 - 02/07/06 08:31 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

tiny_rabid_birds said:
shroomsynergy, check the dates on threads before posting if you're using the search function or surfing through related posts. This one is like exactly a year old.




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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: shroomsynergy]
    #5275379 - 02/07/06 09:40 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

you go into anaphylactic shock from a reaction with the psilocybin/green mold and die from the crazy amount of histamine being released into your blood stream. Unless you have epinephrine on hand.

That i think would be a worse case. I dunno if it would happen though.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: Liquidkick]
    #5284319 - 02/10/06 12:42 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

not worth it man. because if your wrong on your mold i.d. then there is no help for you once you have indigested it. and if you really want to know then give it to the neighbors dog. <---- Just kidding. Dont Do It Dude.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: Keen_Eyed]
    #5284693 - 02/10/06 05:50 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

A friend and I ate some shrooms that gave us a mild allergic reaction, our lips started to swell, and it felt like out nervous system was being attacked, which some people would relate to nervousness and fear.

I felt like I was going to break out in hives, I still don't know what it was, but I'm suspecting it was mold.

We tripped, but it wasn't worth the liver damage, or the severe discomfort.

I know this thread is really old, just thought I would give my thoughts to anyone searching about moldy shrooms in the future.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: Cutter]
    #5284749 - 02/10/06 06:23 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Let the post die. It's old and tired.


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