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OfflineMycoJunkie
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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: jonas]
    #3742848 - 02/06/05 09:42 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Lol.

Goddamnit.. you ppl are making me not want to eat these fucking shrooms.

FUCK!


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3742861 - 02/06/05 09:44 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

ok, you pull the month old pizza out of the fridge, do you eat it?


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3742864 - 02/06/05 09:45 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Whatever dude, not to be a dick but if you'd even consider eating that mushroom, maybe it'd be better for you to respectfully remove yourself from the gene pool.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3742871 - 02/06/05 09:46 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Damn... Good question.  If it made me trip, I'd eat it.

If you were in some desolate, isolated, barren environment, you had no food.. Would you eat a loaf of green molded bread? I would.  But shit.. this doesn't help me w/ my situation.

Damnit Jonas, why do you have to be a mofo and look out for me by saying something refering to my beloved darwin's theory :frown:


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3742898 - 02/06/05 09:49 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

MycoJunkie said:
Damn... Good question. If it made me trip, I'd eat it.




you are desperate... dont allow yourself to be like that over a drug.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3742919 - 02/06/05 09:55 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

See what I'm stuck on is the fact that this almost went un noticed...It didn't smell and had no signs of contam at the top of the casing, he pretty much had to break it apart to notice that it was contamed... How can you be SURE that you don't have a contamed casing without ripping it apart??


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3742921 - 02/06/05 09:55 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

You bastards are all right, pun intended.

Goddamn green mold. I'm going to murder your spores in their sleep.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3743049 - 02/06/05 10:17 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

*IDEA* Do you think that soaking the shrooms in, say, orange juice, might help to kill contams and neutralize toxins?

Maybe just extract the magic with methanol. that willkill the bad stuff and give you the goodstuff.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: Darkie]
    #3743196 - 02/06/05 10:43 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Orange juice wouldn't do anything. Even if you did kill the mold on the mushroom, you can't know if it absorbed any of the toxins. It's not worth the risk. If you're dumb enough to eat them you deserve whatever happens to you.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: jonas]
    #3743447 - 02/06/05 11:17 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Yea....And green mold on bread is different from green mold on shrooms...Someone previsouly pointed that out but i'm guessing that you missed that...I agree.You should never let a drug have you in its hand to the point where you'd risk getting sickly from or dying(rare) from...It's just not worth it....But if your wanting it that bad...Do as you desire....But beware...You'll hate yourself in the moring.....But regardless, good luck on w/e you choose to do....

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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3743981 - 02/07/05 01:36 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Chances are ok thatd youd eat them and be fine or mildly sick. Chances are pretty good youd feel at least mildly to pretty sick. Worse case, you die.

I sure wouldnt let a drug make me act like that man. You can have mushrooms in like 6-8 weeks if you start a new grow now..not so horrible to not have to risk it.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3744153 - 02/07/05 02:37 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Damn!!! I hate seeing the blind leading the blind.

Only healthy mycelium can produce mushrooms. Once green mold attacks a casing
or a cake the mycelium stops producing the shrooms and tries to fight the
attack instead. Of course, the green mold ALWAYS wins, however, the mushrooms
don't "absorb" any toxins. Green mold isn't toxic anyway.

A healthy Cubensis mushroom is ALWAYS edible!!

I have eaten healthy first flush shrooms that were picked after mold was
noticed on the casing. I have done it MANY times. NO ILL EFECTS WHATSOEVER.

Enjoy your shrooms, dude. Don't listen to these inexperinced speculators.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: TM]
    #3744166 - 02/07/05 02:42 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Funny then what makes mushrooms grow like this if the casing is contaminated?



Those are odd for the strains and seems to signify that just because they grew off healthy mycelium this underneath:

had some sort of affect.

Or do you attribute the hollow thin whithered mushrooms to something else?


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3744176 - 02/07/05 02:46 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Also theres certain other things that you may not know about a person, and the person may not know about themselves, such as alergies. I'm allergic to penicilin and recently found out. I'm pretty sure theres a mold out there that produces it and theres a chance that could be absorbed by the mushrooms..not something I'd personally be willing to risk. Thats just me though..I stick to my bud and my nice safe healthy looking mushrooms.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3744188 - 02/07/05 02:53 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I gotta say something...I have NEVER once heard of someone being poisioned or dying from an edible(or hallucinogenic mushroom) and plenty have eaten from casings that had green...I have even...as long as theres no green touchin the shroom and it looks healthy I have np's with it..I don't believe that shit about the mushroom absorbin the poisons....it would be all over the news about how dangerous it is to grow shrooms :smile:

not to mention shrooms can get bacteria contams that you don't even know about that are harmless(or so I've read) until I see proof I never believe anything



this casiing right here I could not stop the contams(kept saltin tho) I just got a flush in time before it was toaste..I have successfully killed mold on a casing layer but on the poo there didn't seem to be a chance


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3744202 - 02/07/05 03:01 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

scatmanrav said:
Funny then what makes mushrooms grow like this if the casing is contaminated?






Environmental inconsistancies and/or incorectness can cause deformites as
you're displaying. Depends on strain, substrate, casing, water hardness, etc.

The one between your fingers stopped growing several days before the pic was
taken. It's beginning to rot inside.

Quote:


Those are odd for the strains and seems to signify that just because they grew off healthy mycelium this underneath:

had some sort of affect
Or do you attribute the hollow thin whithered mushrooms to something else?




Note that the small area of what I call "toothpaste mold" is far from the
shrooms and that the shrooms are very small and have stopped growing.
Picking them before they begin to rot is what I do and then I toss the casing.
No matter how hard you try to save a casing that has "toothpaste mold", you'll
fail. The shrooms it has produced are safe to eat as long as you pick them
when they're fresh. Never eat rotting shrooms, they'll give you a really bad
stomach ache along with nausea and excessive gas.


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #3744205 - 02/07/05 03:02 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

"Some Aspergillus species are toxic. Aspergillus flavus, a yellow to yellowish green species, produces the deadly aflatoxins. A. flavus attacks cottonseed meals, peanuts and other seeds high in oil that have been stored in hot, damp environments. Of all the biologically produced toxins, the aflatoxins are the most potent hepatacarcinogens yet found. The toxicity of this species was largely unknown until, in 1960, 100,000 turkeys mysteriously died from an outbreak of this disease in Great Britain.
Since A. flavus grows on practically all types of grain, this species is of serious concern to mushroom spawn producers. "

Thats about one type of green mold of like dozens. This stuff doesnt sound fun to have, on the substrate, or near the mushrooms. Often the visable part of the mold (the green part) is the spores and the mold is much deaper then it looks. Maybe the mold spread to the shrooms and just isnt sportulating yet?

Like I said, theres an ok chance nothing would happen. I have heard of people, like prisoner, who say they felt sick after words, so theres a chance of this too. But to say theres no chance of someone being posioned or dying from eating a mushroom from a particular contamination on a casing (like described above) I think is hasty. Especially considering there's always alergic reactions.

Yeah chances are slim as hell you'll die...but the chances arent so horrible that you'll get really sick.. so is it worth it to you to find out?


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3744337 - 02/07/05 05:50 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

ewwwwww! i wouldnt even chance it


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: psychedelic_sam]
    #3744532 - 02/07/05 08:28 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

would you eat the bread with mold on it???


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Re: Whats the worst that will happen if you eat shrooms from a green mold contaminated casing? [Re: thedjrave]
    #3744604 - 02/07/05 09:16 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

If you are getting fruits...

Use syran wrap to phisically seporate the developing mushrooms from the contamination. (Mold spores "Shoot" to thier new destination, they don't fall.)

When the veils break, quickly transfer those to a jar for spore collection.

Use those spores for your next batches. (You still have a slight chance of contamination, but that may be your only resort. Catch them quicker next time!)

Fruit your next ones inside plastic bags, and never remove them from the bag. Just put an "X" shaped hole where you want the fruit to rise from after the bag has colonized. Mushrooms will grow from that hole, and contamination will stay inside the bag, away from the mushrooms.


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