Home | Community | Message Board

Magic Mushrooms Zamnesia
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Mushroom-Hut Substrate Mix   Original Sensible Seeds Autoflowering Cannabis Seeds   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   PhytoExtractum Kratom Powder for Sale   North Spore Bulk Substrate   Bridgetown Botanicals CBD Concentrates

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
Offlineexclusive58
illegal alien

Registered: 04/16/04
Posts: 2,146
Last seen: 5 years, 11 months
A tek without verm is needed
    #3740393 - 02/06/05 10:53 AM (19 years, 28 days ago)

Hey all, I was wondering if anyone could direct me to a tek that does not need any vermiculite or perlite. For some reason this stuff is very expensive here.

I've been trying to start my first grow for over 3 months now, but i lack the basic ingredients that are needed. I was tempted to go with bird seeds, but i realized that this would also need some verm at one point...
Soooo, anyhelp is appreciated,
Peace

Edited by exclusive58 (02/06/05 11:55 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleLouiseLouise
starstruck
Male User Gallery

Registered: 11/02/04
Posts: 3,898
Loc: Searching w/my good eye c...
Re: A tek without verm needed? [Re: exclusive58]
    #3740453 - 02/06/05 11:23 AM (19 years, 28 days ago)

There really is no replacement for verm. It is what the mycellium will drink from, and from what I've noticed, it's pretty thirsty.
As for perlite (which helps raise humidity in the chamber) Geolite works well too.

GL


--------------------
"That's why you get in close to them, and then take the picture!! Don't be a pussy!" ~CC

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineexclusive58
illegal alien

Registered: 04/16/04
Posts: 2,146
Last seen: 5 years, 11 months
Re: A tek without verm needed? [Re: LouiseLouise]
    #3740517 - 02/06/05 11:54 AM (19 years, 28 days ago)

awww, thats bad news. I'm really going to have to empty my wallet to get some verm, it sux. thanx for informing me though

i'm still open to any recommendations of no-verm teks!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAnnoA
Experimenter
 User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 06/17/99
Posts: 24,166
Loc: my room
Last seen: 6 days, 10 hours
Re: A tek without verm needed? [Re: exclusive58]
    #3740545 - 02/06/05 12:06 PM (19 years, 28 days ago)

Of course there are teks without vermiculite.

You prepare a grain and case it with buffered peat. No vermiculite in here.

Read http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/26016

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineBlueMeany215
Atom HeartMother
Registered: 12/16/04
Posts: 42
Last seen: 10 years, 10 months
Re: A tek without verm needed? [Re: Anno]
    #3740550 - 02/06/05 12:10 PM (19 years, 28 days ago)

how much is that verm around there going for?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineprototypical_man
ass model

Registered: 02/01/05
Posts: 396
Loc: Doral Florida
Last seen: 8 years, 23 days
Re: undefined [Re: exclusive58]
    #3740605 - 02/06/05 12:36 PM (19 years, 28 days ago)

aiight..

first off, do go with birdseed or some sort of grain. Spawn your jars to organic composted manure . A big bag of organic composted manure cost me $1.09


--------------------
I have 29 Strains as of current.. I LOVE TO TRADE. See my bio for the strains I currently have.

I seek: Strains I don't have, exotic species, Edibles, Vacutainers, A accurate scale, chicken manure, worm castings, worms for making my own worm castings, plastic lids for mason jars, light malt extract, Kelp Meal, A Ph Tester, A microscope.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinescatmanrav
Brainy Smurf

Registered: 05/08/04
Posts: 11,483
Loc: Flag
Last seen: 11 years, 1 month
Trusted Cultivator
Re: undefined [Re: prototypical_man]
    #3740774 - 02/06/05 01:25 PM (19 years, 28 days ago)

You could also just make cakes out of the birdseed. Fruit them casing less. Probably be better with buffered peat on it though. You can also fruit the jars invitro.


--------------------
"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineexclusive58
illegal alien

Registered: 04/16/04
Posts: 2,146
Last seen: 5 years, 11 months
Re: undefined [Re: Anno]
    #3741032 - 02/06/05 02:31 PM (19 years, 28 days ago)

ahhh, thanks for the replies everyone i feel much better now.

What exactly is buffered peat though?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineElahrairah
new-growth
Registered: 01/17/05
Posts: 67
Last seen: 18 years, 5 months
Re: undefined [Re: exclusive58]
    #3741072 - 02/06/05 02:42 PM (19 years, 28 days ago)

peat is peat moss, its a fluffy plant material you can get at gardening stores, made of dead moss. its good for water retention. however, it is rather acidic in PH, and shrooms like to be slightly base, so you should 'buffer' the peat with something that will counteract the acidity. generally this is lime, oyster shell, or calcium powder.

how much is the vermiculite by you? i couldnt find it for quite a while, and ended up driving a half hour to a large greenhouse, where it was 4 dollars for 8 quarts (8.8 Liter).


--------------------
All instances of FOAF in this post have been replaced by I and My for clarity of reading. No relation to the poster is meant or implied.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMushroomFriend
Vargen ska fanleva!!
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/12/04
Posts: 4,055
Loc: The Druid Peak Pack.
Last seen: 1 month, 9 days
Re: undefined [Re: exclusive58]
    #3741074 - 02/06/05 02:43 PM (19 years, 28 days ago)

peat with a source of calcium in it like crushes oystershells. I use garden calcium (powder) in my peat cause it works faster.

peat is rather acid,(Ph 5-6) mushrooms like it a little more base (Ph 7,5).


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMushroomFriend
Vargen ska fanleva!!
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/12/04
Posts: 4,055
Loc: The Druid Peak Pack.
Last seen: 1 month, 9 days
Re: undefined [Re: Elahrairah]
    #3741076 - 02/06/05 02:43 PM (19 years, 28 days ago)

lol


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineticktock
Seeker
 User Gallery

Registered: 10/02/04
Posts: 389
Loc: Just ask the rabbit.
Last seen: 14 years, 1 day
Re: undefined [Re: prototypical_man]
    #3741200 - 02/06/05 03:16 PM (19 years, 28 days ago)

You want your first grow to have a really low probability of failure and frustration. That means the PF tek, and that means vermiculite. Pry that wallet open and get yourself a little bag of it. Make a few jars, see mushrooms, get happy. Your cakes will teach you more than postings can.


--------------------
Don't panic!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineprototypical_man
ass model

Registered: 02/01/05
Posts: 396
Loc: Doral Florida
Last seen: 8 years, 23 days
Re: undefined [Re: ticktock]
    #3741794 - 02/06/05 05:51 PM (19 years, 28 days ago)

yeah but you should totally spaw to composted manure! It would be awsome if your first grow was a bulk tek!


--------------------
I have 29 Strains as of current.. I LOVE TO TRADE. See my bio for the strains I currently have.

I seek: Strains I don't have, exotic species, Edibles, Vacutainers, A accurate scale, chicken manure, worm castings, worms for making my own worm castings, plastic lids for mason jars, light malt extract, Kelp Meal, A Ph Tester, A microscope.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinescatmanrav
Brainy Smurf

Registered: 05/08/04
Posts: 11,483
Loc: Flag
Last seen: 11 years, 1 month
Trusted Cultivator
Re: undefined [Re: prototypical_man]
    #3742328 - 02/06/05 07:55 PM (19 years, 28 days ago)

You dont need to start with the pf tek. Never touched the stuff :thumbdown:


--------------------
"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: Mushroom-Hut Substrate Mix   Original Sensible Seeds Autoflowering Cannabis Seeds   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   PhytoExtractum Kratom Powder for Sale   North Spore Bulk Substrate   Bridgetown Botanicals CBD Concentrates


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* does verm need to be sterilized? ces420 708 3 05/24/01 12:31 PM
by Anno
* I need Vermiculite UrbanCowboy 1,580 11 07/27/01 11:07 PM
by nishikkiknee
* Please help! Tek Advise Needed. avarrin 713 1 04/16/02 11:40 AM
by Anno
* Top layer of Verm needed? Infadel 688 2 10/15/01 04:50 PM
by Scourge
* vermiculite & brf NoTsTaBlE 2,684 18 03/29/02 05:04 PM
by WakingUpLate
* Vermiculite? Angelina 773 3 02/23/02 05:31 PM
by Roadkill
* Human Shit Tek? LOL
( 1 2 3 all )
Trail_Blazer 7,217 51 10/18/17 11:33 PM
by Citric
* Surprising news about Vermiculite..
( 1 2 all )
Proteus 3,633 24 12/10/01 05:35 AM
by DELUDE

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
820 topic views. 25 members, 165 guests and 47 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.028 seconds spending 0.01 seconds on 14 queries.