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A tek without verm is needed
    #3740393 - 02/06/05 12:53 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Hey all, I was wondering if anyone could direct me to a tek that does not need any vermiculite or perlite. For some reason this stuff is very expensive here.

I've been trying to start my first grow for over 3 months now, but i lack the basic ingredients that are needed. I was tempted to go with bird seeds, but i realized that this would also need some verm at one point...
Soooo, anyhelp is appreciated,
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Re: A tek without verm needed? [Re: exclusive58]
    #3740453 - 02/06/05 01:23 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

There really is no replacement for verm. It is what the mycellium will drink from, and from what I've noticed, it's pretty thirsty.
As for perlite (which helps raise humidity in the chamber) Geolite works well too.

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Re: A tek without verm needed? [Re: LouiseLouise]
    #3740517 - 02/06/05 01:54 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

awww, thats bad news. I'm really going to have to empty my wallet to get some verm, it sux. thanx for informing me though

i'm still open to any recommendations of no-verm teks!


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Re: A tek without verm needed? [Re: exclusive58]
    #3740545 - 02/06/05 02:06 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Of course there are teks without vermiculite.

You prepare a grain and case it with buffered peat. No vermiculite in here.

Read http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/26016


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Re: A tek without verm needed? [Re: Anno]
    #3740550 - 02/06/05 02:10 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

how much is that verm around there going for?


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Re: undefined [Re: exclusive58]
    #3740605 - 02/06/05 02:36 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

aiight..

first off, do go with birdseed or some sort of grain. Spawn your jars to organic composted manure . A big bag of organic composted manure cost me $1.09


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Re: undefined [Re: prototypical_man]
    #3740774 - 02/06/05 03:25 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

You could also just make cakes out of the birdseed. Fruit them casing less. Probably be better with buffered peat on it though. You can also fruit the jars invitro.


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Re: undefined [Re: Anno]
    #3741032 - 02/06/05 04:31 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

ahhh, thanks for the replies everyone i feel much better now.

What exactly is buffered peat though?


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Re: undefined [Re: exclusive58]
    #3741072 - 02/06/05 04:42 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

peat is peat moss, its a fluffy plant material you can get at gardening stores, made of dead moss. its good for water retention. however, it is rather acidic in PH, and shrooms like to be slightly base, so you should 'buffer' the peat with something that will counteract the acidity. generally this is lime, oyster shell, or calcium powder.

how much is the vermiculite by you? i couldnt find it for quite a while, and ended up driving a half hour to a large greenhouse, where it was 4 dollars for 8 quarts (8.8 Liter).


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Re: undefined [Re: exclusive58]
    #3741074 - 02/06/05 04:43 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

peat with a source of calcium in it like crushes oystershells. I use garden calcium (powder) in my peat cause it works faster.

peat is rather acid,(Ph 5-6) mushrooms like it a little more base (Ph 7,5).


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Re: undefined [Re: Elahrairah]
    #3741076 - 02/06/05 04:43 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

lol


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Re: undefined [Re: prototypical_man]
    #3741200 - 02/06/05 05:16 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

You want your first grow to have a really low probability of failure and frustration. That means the PF tek, and that means vermiculite. Pry that wallet open and get yourself a little bag of it. Make a few jars, see mushrooms, get happy. Your cakes will teach you more than postings can.


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Re: undefined [Re: ticktock]
    #3741794 - 02/06/05 07:51 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

yeah but you should totally spaw to composted manure! It would be awsome if your first grow was a bulk tek!


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Re: undefined [Re: prototypical_man]
    #3742328 - 02/06/05 09:55 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

You dont need to start with the pf tek. Never touched the stuff :thumbdown:


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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