Home | Community | Message Board


Crestline Sales - MycoPath
Please support our sponsors.

General Interest >> Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Amazon Shop for: Microscope, Salvia

Jump to first unread post. Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]
Anonymous

are the really deep salvia experiences proof of past lives/ reincarnation? *DELETED*
    #3739203 - 02/06/05 04:13 AM (12 years, 18 days ago)

Post deleted by PsiloPsychic

Reason for deletion: .



Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlineorichalc
Stranger

Registered: 01/30/05
Posts: 71
Last seen: 11 years, 9 days
Re: are the really deep salvia experiences proof of past lives/ reincarnation? [Re: ]
    #3739221 - 02/06/05 04:17 AM (12 years, 18 days ago)

no.

if we were reincarnated then we'd have improved by now instead of killing each other; otherwise known as hate...

don't believe in superstitions my friend. it will only cloud your mind.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleSilversoul
Rhizome
Male User Gallery

Registered: 01/01/05
Posts: 23,576
Loc: The Barricades
Re: are the really deep salvia experiences proof of past lives/ reincarnation? [Re: ]
    #3739388 - 02/06/05 05:07 AM (12 years, 18 days ago)

The first time I broke through on salvia, I thought I was the paint on the wall. I doubt that that was a past life of mine.


--------------------


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineDeviate
newbie
Registered: 04/20/03
Posts: 4,497
Last seen: 1 year, 5 months
Re: are the really deep salvia experiences proof of past lives/ reincarnation? [Re: Silversoul]
    #3739435 - 02/06/05 05:23 AM (12 years, 18 days ago)

they are DEFINITELY proof of something. exactly what that is i am still trying to figure out.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Anonymous

Re: are the really deep salvia experiences proof of past lives/ reincarnation? *DELETED* [Re: Silversoul]
    #3739441 - 02/06/05 05:24 AM (12 years, 18 days ago)

Post deleted by PsiloPsychic

Reason for deletion: .



Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinebutterflydawn
lucid dreamer
 User Gallery

Registered: 01/25/04
Posts: 1,794
Loc: lost at sea
Last seen: 2 years, 2 months
Re: are the really deep salvia experiences proof of past lives/ reincarnation? [Re: ]
    #3739690 - 02/06/05 07:00 AM (12 years, 18 days ago)

so hard to talk about sally d trips,
no idea whats happening during my experinces.
strange!


--------------------
lucidal expansion


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineWoland
The MercilessWarrior
 User Gallery

Registered: 01/31/05
Posts: 217
Loc: FL
Last seen: 9 years, 9 months
Re: are the really deep salvia experiences proof of past lives/ reincarnation? [Re: butterflydawn]
    #3740029 - 02/06/05 09:52 AM (12 years, 18 days ago)

It's possible, I thought I was a dog at one point. I had dog memories and everything, i had some nice owners. But that was after a LOT of salvia...


--------------------
"It's bad enough that you sell your waking life for minimum wage, but now they get your dreams for free."


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleSwami
Eggshell Walker

Registered: 01/19/00
Posts: 15,413
Loc: In the hen house
Re: are the really deep salvia experiences proof of past lives/ reincarnation? [Re: Woland]
    #3740099 - 02/06/05 10:34 AM (12 years, 18 days ago)

My hound dog sure has a lot of saliva...


--------------------



The proof is in the pudding.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineGomp
¡(Bound to·(O))be free!
Male User Gallery

Registered: 09/11/04
Posts: 10,866
Loc: I re·side [primarily] in...
Last seen: 4 months, 15 days
Re: are the really deep salvia experiences proof of past lives/ reincarnation? [Re: Swami]
    #3740615 - 02/06/05 02:40 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

*drools*


--------------------


--------------------
Disclaimer!?


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisibleredgreenvines
irregular verb
 User Gallery

Registered: 04/08/04
Posts: 19,980
Re: are the really deep salvia experiences proof of past lives/ reincarnation? [Re: Gomp]
    #3740751 - 02/06/05 03:20 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

the salvia trips are proof of mentation only.
that means you can rejoice that the mental system operates.

if you observe carefully you learn how the mental system operates.

until you get more familiar with how it operates it is hard (impossible) to tell which experiences are full of information and which experiences are constructions or to what degree.

there is really very little difference, so you need to cultivate an attitude that is open to the likelihood that your interpretation is erroneous, but your experience stands on its own as what it was.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblenewusername222
Stranger
Male User Gallery
Registered: 08/14/03
Posts: 2,327
Re: are the really deep salvia experiences proof of past lives/ reincarnation? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3741216 - 02/06/05 05:19 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

I believe memories are stored in our genetic codes. Sometimes we tap into the memories of our ancestors. When someone discovers a past life during hypnosis, etc., they are possibly tapping into the past lives of ancestors. Another theory of mine is that we are open to influence by other spirits during hypnotic states, and we see things that they experienced. Finally, I believe we have existed in some form for eternity, and we have experienced many things prior to this mortal existence. We at times recall memories from those premortal experiences.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineOldWoodSpecter
waiting
Male

Registered: 02/01/05
Posts: 4,033
Loc: mountains and lakes
Last seen: 10 years, 4 months
Re: are the really deep salvia experiences proof of past lives/ reincarnation? [Re: orichalc]
    #3741248 - 02/06/05 05:26 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

Quote:

orichalc said:
no.

if we were reincarnated then we'd have improved by now instead of killing each other; otherwise known as hate...

don't believe in superstitions my friend. it will only cloud your mind.




That isn't much of an argument.
It could be replied like this: the good people and spiritual people had more incarnations than the bad people


--------------------
I descend upon your earth from the skies
I command your very souls you unbelievers
Bring before me what is mine


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineSWEDEN
Miracle of Science

Registered: 10/25/04
Posts: 2,577
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 3 years, 2 months
Re: are the really deep salvia experiences proof of past lives/ reincarnation? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #3741302 - 02/06/05 05:43 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

We share 95% of our genetic code with cats.


--------------------


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisibleredgreenvines
irregular verb
 User Gallery

Registered: 04/08/04
Posts: 19,980
Re: are the really deep salvia experiences proof of past lives/ reincarnation? [Re: newusername222]
    #3741312 - 02/06/05 05:46 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

Quote:

supernova said:
I believe memories are stored in our genetic codes. Sometimes we tap into the memories of our ancestors. When someone discovers a past life during hypnosis, etc., they are possibly tapping into the past lives of ancestors. Another theory of mine is that we are open to influence by other spirits during hypnotic states, and we see things that they experienced. Finally, I believe we have existed in some form for eternity, and we have experienced many things prior to this mortal existence. We at times recall memories from those premortal experiences.



you can believe that but it was proven wrong in the early 1970's
there are no ways to store memory in dna or express them in rna
those are cellular domain delvelopmental channels

after grinding up thousands of rat brains they found that
memory is stored and expressed all accross the brain using faster electrochemical changes and non-inherited wound type growth.
(i.e. each new memory is a pattern of about 10-1000 microscopic mini-scars facilitating nerve conduction and hence recall when part of the image reccurs => associative learning)


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineWoland
The MercilessWarrior
 User Gallery

Registered: 01/31/05
Posts: 217
Loc: FL
Last seen: 9 years, 9 months
Re: are the really deep salvia experiences proof of past lives/ reincarnation? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3741337 - 02/06/05 05:51 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

Quote:

redgreenvines said:
the salvia trips are proof of mentation only.
that means you can rejoice that the mental system operates.

if you observe carefully you learn how the mental system operates.

until you get more familiar with how it operates it is hard (impossible) to tell which experiences are full of information and which experiences are constructions or to what degree.

there is really very little difference, so you need to cultivate an attitude that is open to the likelihood that your interpretation is erroneous, but your experience stands on its own as what it was.




As a spiritual person, I believe that the mind (physical body) and the spirit are hopelessly entwined in this life. How else could one be spiritual without using the physical body as a tool?


--------------------
"It's bad enough that you sell your waking life for minimum wage, but now they get your dreams for free."


Edited by Woland (02/06/05 05:53 PM)


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblenewusername222
Stranger
Male User Gallery
Registered: 08/14/03
Posts: 2,327
Re: are the really deep salvia experiences proof of past lives/ reincarnation? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3741527 - 02/06/05 06:37 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

Quote:

redgreenvines said:
Quote:

supernova said:
I believe memories are stored in our genetic codes. Sometimes we tap into the memories of our ancestors. When someone discovers a past life during hypnosis, etc., they are possibly tapping into the past lives of ancestors. Another theory of mine is that we are open to influence by other spirits during hypnotic states, and we see things that they experienced. Finally, I believe we have existed in some form for eternity, and we have experienced many things prior to this mortal existence. We at times recall memories from those premortal experiences.



you can believe that but it was proven wrong in the early 1970's
there are no ways to store memory in dna or express them in rna
those are cellular domain delvelopmental channels

after grinding up thousands of rat brains they found that
memory is stored and expressed all accross the brain using faster electrochemical changes and non-inherited wound type growth.
(i.e. each new memory is a pattern of about 10-1000 microscopic mini-scars facilitating nerve conduction and hence recall when part of the image reccurs => associative learning)




I hear ya vines. But I'm not a rat. And I don't have rat genes. The study of rats is helpful, but the leap from rat to human is a far stretch.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisibleredgreenvines
irregular verb
 User Gallery

Registered: 04/08/04
Posts: 19,980
Re: are the really deep salvia experiences proof of past lives/ reincarnation? [Re: newusername222]
    #3741696 - 02/06/05 07:24 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

the difference between the rat memory system and human is quantity and capacity (complexity is the result of those) not quality or method of storage.

the method predates mammals.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisibleredgreenvines
irregular verb
 User Gallery

Registered: 04/08/04
Posts: 19,980
Re: are the really deep salvia experiences proof of past lives/ reincarnation? [Re: Woland]
    #3741710 - 02/06/05 07:28 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

Quote:

Woland said:
Quote:

redgreenvines said:
the salvia trips are proof of mentation only.
that means you can rejoice that the mental system operates.

if you observe carefully you learn how the mental system operates.

until you get more familiar with how it operates it is hard (impossible) to tell which experiences are full of information and which experiences are constructions or to what degree.

there is really very little difference, so you need to cultivate an attitude that is open to the likelihood that your interpretation is erroneous, but your experience stands on its own as what it was.




As a spiritual person, I believe that the mind (physical body) and the spirit are hopelessly entwined in this life. How else could one be spiritual without using the physical body as a tool?




not arguing with you at all about that.
the connection between mind and body may be less mysterious than we might wish.

a great premise is that we are spirit using body - but
allow that elaborations on that might be erroneous, still you can certainly work with the premise as if it were bonafide.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleSwami
Eggshell Walker

Registered: 01/19/00
Posts: 15,413
Loc: In the hen house
Re: are the really deep salvia experiences proof of past lives/ reincarnation? [Re: SWEDEN]
    #3741750 - 02/06/05 07:39 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

We share 95% of our genetic code with cats.
Do we REALLY need to know what goes on in the privacy of your home? :humpme:

*Swami dials A.S.P.C.A.*


--------------------



The proof is in the pudding.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineDroz
Love of Life
 User Gallery

Registered: 10/16/00
Posts: 2,746
Loc: Floorida
Last seen: 1 year, 6 months
Re: are the really deep salvia experiences proof of past lives/ reincarnation? [Re: Swami]
    #3741958 - 02/06/05 08:28 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

I've had a vision of an apache running on the land. That was one of my reincarnated selves, or unless that was my spirit guide.


--------------------
Evolution of Time.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Jump to top. Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]

Amazon Shop for: Microscope, Salvia

General Interest >> Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Past Lives CherryBomM 553 3 01/17/05 06:37 AM
by truekimbo2
* Remembering Past Lives *DELETED* Sinbad 842 14 02/13/05 11:14 AM
by J4S0N
* . soulcircus 1,122 6 06/12/06 03:15 PM
by truekimbo2
* Past lives CrazyJulio 646 7 08/03/04 04:45 PM
by BleaK
* Past lives
( 1 2 all )
AtomicShroom98 2,122 22 05/08/08 02:33 PM
by Sophistic Radiance
* past lives - past loves
( 1 2 all )
ShroomFan 1,030 21 01/28/08 03:07 PM
by ShroomFan
* Memory of past lives? skaMariaPastora 786 4 01/26/02 10:35 AM
by Anonymous
* past lives Fiblessop 514 3 05/15/07 02:01 PM
by Cracka_X

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Middleman, CosmicJoke, Diploid, DividedQuantum
2,169 topic views. 1 members, 6 guests and 15 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Toggle Favorite | Print Topic | Stats ]
Search this thread:
FreeSpores.com
Please support our sponsors.

Copyright 1997-2017 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.079 seconds spending 0.003 seconds on 17 queries.