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InvisibleSomaism
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Cure against harmine mutagenic effects
    #3737087 - 02/05/05 09:30 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Holy basil contains anti-mutagenic and anti-oxidant qualities. I prefer extract.
This will reverse the dangers of causing a cancer related disease with using harmine.


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Re: Cure against harmine mutagenic effects [Re: Somaism]
    #3737108 - 02/05/05 09:38 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I suppose I'm not familiar with harmine having any carcinogenic effects...have any references on this and care to elaborate?


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Re: Cure against harmine mutagenic effects [Re: Hooty]
    #3737135 - 02/05/05 09:44 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Carcinogenic and mutagenic are not the same.


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Re: Cure against harmine mutagenic effects [Re: Somaism]
    #3737205 - 02/05/05 10:00 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

can you tell us more about the harmine mutagenic effects?
i've never read about it...


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Re: Cure against harmine mutagenic effects [Re: felixhigh]
    #3737328 - 02/05/05 10:29 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Carcinogenic and mutagenic are not the same.





I realize that, but I thought that what you were getting at is that these supposed mutagenic effects of harmine could possibly cause cancer...making it carcinogenic. Never the less this seems like nothing more than semantics, when really I was just trying to see if you could elaborate on the subject or list some references.


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Re: Cure against harmine mutagenic effects [Re: Somaism]
    #3738997 - 02/06/05 03:06 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Somaism said:
Carcinogenic and mutagenic are not the same.




actualy cancer is a mutation in the cells generaly caused by exposure to radiation or chemicals


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Re: Cure against harmine mutagenic effects [Re: Hooty]
    #3739479 - 02/06/05 05:35 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

its comign from this post
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...e=0&fpart=1


id be interested to know wher eyou got this cure from? any studies doen on this?


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Re: Cure against harmine mutagenic effects [Re: kadakuda]
    #3740625 - 02/06/05 02:46 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

carcinogenic
mutagenic
teratogenic

3 different attributes...
(of course, some chemicals can be all 3 at once, eh?)


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Re: Cure against harmine mutagenic effects [Re: gnrm23]
    #3740656 - 02/06/05 02:58 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

There are a number of anti-mutagenics out there, that could all be potentially useful, here's a short list:

- Rooibos Tea
- Comfrey
- Cat's Claw (Uncaria tomentosa)
- Turmeric
- Curcumin
- Chlorophyll/kelp/chlorella
- Chrysoeriol

And others such as anti-oxidants like Yerba Mate tea are also very beneficial.


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Re: Cure against harmine mutagenic effects [Re: dblaney]
    #3741240 - 02/06/05 05:24 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

There is also some rumor that Mate - Tea might be carcinogenic. Its comsumption is correlated with esophageal cancer in south america. It might be, however, that this is simply caused by the high temperature the tea has and the traditional way of consumption:

http://www.mercola.com/2000/dec/3/cancer_esophageal.htm


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