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Clark
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Can you hear me, Morpheus?
#3725249 - 02/03/05 03:39 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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"I'm going to be honest with you. I hate this place, this zoo, this prison, this reality, whatever you want to call it. I can't stand it any longer. It's the smell, if there is such a thing. I feel saturated by it. I can taste your stink. And every time I do I feel I have somehow been infected by it. It's repulsive, isn't it? I must get out of here." -- Agent Smith channeling the Gnostics
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Re: Can you hear me, Morpheus? [Re: Clark]
#3725256 - 02/03/05 03:39 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Isn't 'gnostic' just a really cool word?
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Clark
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Re: Can you hear me, Morpheus? [Re: ergot]
#3725267 - 02/03/05 03:43 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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ergot said: Isn't 'gnostic' just a really cool word?
Sure! It's like a cross between "gnome" and "rustic". What could be cooler?
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Re: Can you hear me, Morpheus? [Re: Clark]
#3725270 - 02/03/05 03:44 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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how about "gnostastic"?
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Swami
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Re: Can you hear me, Morpheus? [Re: ergot]
#3725302 - 02/03/05 03:52 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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When I eat spoiled food, I get all gnostic to my stomach.
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Darcho
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Re: Can you hear me, Morpheus? [Re: Zekebomb]
#3725313 - 02/03/05 03:55 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not only is it a cool word, it also has a meaning. Basically it is just the name of a Christian sect that was heavily influenced by mysticism. Plotinus referred to the Gnostics as "those that affirm the creator of the cosmos and the cosmos itself to be evil." Although both Plotinus and the Gnostics thought matter to be evil, Plotinus wrote a treatise against Gnostic beliefs.
Whats a cooler word than 'gnostic?' How about 'agnostic?'
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Swami
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Re: Can you hear me, Morpheus? [Re: Darcho]
#3725338 - 02/03/05 04:00 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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How about prognosticate?
"While you were at work, your wife and I prognosticated..."
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Re: Can you hear me, Morpheus? [Re: Swami]
#3725361 - 02/03/05 04:06 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Whenever I get into Agent Smith Mode ( = considering matter to be repulsive ) I find myself drifting further and further away from liberation. That Smith rap really sums up the dark side of finding your way out of the Matrix. Should one embrace it, transcend it or just let it be ?
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Zekebomb
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Re: Can you hear me, Morpheus? [Re: trinity7]
#3727027 - 02/03/05 08:31 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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how about 'prorated"?
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Swami
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Re: Can you hear me, Morpheus? [Re: Zekebomb]
#3727066 - 02/03/05 08:35 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not as cool as "perforated". Swami likes to puncture things.
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Zekebomb
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Re: Can you hear me, Morpheus? [Re: Swami]
#3727170 - 02/03/05 08:50 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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okay, how about this one then: confabulistic
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Re: Can you hear me, Morpheus? [Re: ergot]
#3727559 - 02/03/05 09:56 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've often considered that m'self.
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zahudulallah
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Quote:
MarkostheGnostic said: I've often considered that m'self.
Yea, but when you say to someone "I'm a Gnostic" they often respond "Oh that's cool. I believe we'll never really know either."
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"no no no," you then respond... "i've got a red phone & god's voice is at the other end & he's told me to give you this message..."
~ whoa, izzat a pic of larry storch & his friends?
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zahudulallah
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Re: 'can you hold?' [Re: gnrm23]
#3730510 - 02/04/05 01:25 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Haha.. like Rumi and the Wine Service.
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we all have way too much time on our hands to be making up (or repeating) funning sounding words...
To comment on the ORIGINAL post of the thread...
I think it's perfectly natural to hate that which binds us, like matter and the materialisitic world. It's okay though. You must realize that even in a prison there is a way out, it's just really hard to get through...
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Darcho
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Re: 'can you hold?' [Re: dr0mni]
#3733944 - 02/05/05 02:55 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think that the prison is not matter or the materialistic world, but the way in which matter is perceived and understood.
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Re: 'can you hold?' [Re: Clark]
#3734307 - 02/05/05 05:23 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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"agent smith channeling the Gnostics"
I don't get it
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MarkostheGnostic
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The Matrix films were filled with Gnostic mythology (The Architect is the Demiurge [Creator 'god'], Neo['new']/One Anderson [Ander/Andro = 'man' thus 'new son of man'/savior]; Merovingian [alleged blood line of Jesus], etc.
Gnostics wanted to transcend-escape matter. The material world was a prison which trapped one's soul. Sexuality attracted the soul to physical embodiment and hence bondage in space-time. Agent Smith, an electronic, self-aware, artificially intelligent but essentially formless 'program' of the Architect was forced to assume humanoid form, replete with the illusion of senses - like smell. Like the Gnostics who feel alienated from their Home in the Pleroma [Fullness] of Eternal Being, Smith is similarly exiled to the world of human form wherein he must endure the limitations and imperfections like we humans.
At least that is my interpretation of the comment.
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I don't doubt the inward wisdom of any mystic, however some of them have gotten very strange ideas... sex resulting in bondage with infinitude? Perhaps they believed sex was evil. If I wanted to I could masturbate while tripping while having gnosis at the same time (just a joke though, I don't "like" God in "that way" haha). It's meaningless because I'm happy and I love God. There's no Bardo or hinderance in the cycle of becoming by any means. Sex is great! Especially when it's emotional and committed. Somewhere along the line, some Gnostics and Sufis forgot that it's Ok to be human. What we get is gnostics who physically abuse their earthen vessels and sufis who isolate themselves from the world. I suppose in earlier times, gnostics and sufis lived in a world that was consumed with death and more so overwhelming ignorance. Well, looking back on it maybe I would live as a dervish if I had to live under the Roman Empire or the Islamic Khilafah. Moderation is key I guess.
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