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i got ripped fer over a hundred bucks from one of their kits an refills20 gal unit not counting tank an supplies needed to make it work.they dont send very good instructions as far as how to acctually grow ,it says refer to agood manual magic has several for a price not included with the kit .any way then i came back here read an read an got all my supplies an a print from fsr just cased to nite one 1/2 pint jar outa 15 was bad which aint bad to me.just my opinion but use yer cash wisely an may be follow the mmgg. or pf tek. to start it looks good from here luck to ya mew
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