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 AbeZard
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 mycelia water-colonization speed? 
#373161 - 08/16/01 04:03 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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Can someone with experience with this tek tell me how much faster hone-mycelia water is for colonizing 1/2 pint jars?
Thanks
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From historic coastal town in Southeast
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 puscle
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Re: mycelia water-colonization speed? [Re: AbeZard]
#373162 - 08/16/01 04:05 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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You can save a week.
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ShadowTH
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Re: mycelia water-colonization speed? [Re: puscle]
#373169 - 08/16/01 04:11 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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Does it have to be honey? Are there other household things you could use, and if so, how effective are they? (I'm rather lazy.. don't really want to run to the store just for some honey..)
-Mark
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 Re: mycelia water-colonization speed? [Re: ShadowTH]
#373178 - 08/16/01 04:26 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ive read non-alcoholic beer works or even regular beer...(but to use reg beer u have to boil it for 20 min....i would boil the non aclch as well though it contain a little alchol...
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Re: mycelia water-colonization speed? [Re: AbeZard]
#373220 - 08/16/01 06:01 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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It saves you germination time and it can give you 100 times more innoculant allowing you to put more mycelium in the jar and having more beginning growth points.
Novelty
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Re: mycelia water-colonization speed? [Re: ShadowTH]
#373229 - 08/16/01 06:13 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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I use the free honey at Mcdonalds 1package per 1/2 pint jar. next time you go by there jsut ask them for some it's free.
L3D
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ShadowTH
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Re: mycelia water-colonization speed? [Re: L3D]
#373247 - 08/16/01 06:57 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks, I never would've thought of that.. lol
My mom just ran out to pick up McDonalds anyway, so that was perfect =D
-Mark
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 Re: mycelia water-colonization speed? [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
#373297 - 08/16/01 08:02 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: honey water tek question-
What's the ratio of honey to water?
1tsp of honey:_____
Just read CLUB99'S Honeywater mycelium Tek but
no amount of water was indicated. Full Half pint?
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Re: mycelia water-colonization speed? [Re: AbeZard]
#373372 - 08/16/01 10:03 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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i had the same problem with malt. the guy said to use 4% malt by weight. I had to get an acurite scale. weigh a gallon of water on the bathroom scale, do some math... i think i was off by a bit. i'll try honey next
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Re: mycelia water-colonization speed? [Re: patzee]
#373375 - 08/16/01 10:09 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just use one spoonful (regular spoon, probably about a tablespoon in size) of honey to about 1/2pint of water.
Novelty
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Re: mycelia water-colonization speed? [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
#373577 - 08/17/01 07:13 AM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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I tried molasses, just put in some myc. last night. I have a feeling it may be too "rich" but time will tell.
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Re: mycelia water-colonization speed? [Re: patzee]
#373584 - 08/17/01 07:36 AM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've used both honey and malt powder - usually it's about a 4-5% ratio, so about 5ml of honey to 100ml H2O.
With the malt powder, it actually worked better than the honey as I found there were little specks in my honey, which multiplied as the jar incubated. But with the malt powder, you just dissolve it in a little boiling sterile water and stir, then add the rest of the water to 100ml or what ever ratio you want.
Don't expect the malt water to be clear like the honey water - it will be a little cloudy, which I feel might provide more nutrients for the growing myc.
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Re: mycelia water-colonization speed? [Re: ShadowTH]
#373644 - 08/17/01 10:51 AM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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"Mommy go out to get ya some Happy Meals shadow?"
Arent moms great, hey why dont you ask mommy to innoculate da jars for you...
"Im just playing with ya, cool?"
Im going to look into dis honey water tek myself sounds worthwhile if you can save a week and produce that much more innoculant. Here's another question:
Can you over innoculate? I know from personal experience you can if your using syringes and do not compensate for the added H2O. I hit one jar with a full syringe and my substrate was too moist and it contamed fairly early. Im talking about having an over abundance of spores for the available food supply can your cakes dry out sooner than normally or something to that effect?
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ShadowTH
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Re: mycelia water-colonization speed? [Re: Billyblastoff]
#373658 - 08/17/01 11:15 AM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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<<"Mommy go out to get ya some Happy Meals shadow?"
Arent moms great, hey why dont you ask mommy to innoculate da jars for you...
"Im just playing with ya, cool?" >>
lol, no prob.. Just taking advantage of my youth while I've still got it, y'know? =) Lotta drawbacks though.. If I were on my own I could actually be serious about cultivation instead of having a cheap little setup I have to hide and worry about all the time.. I really look up to the real mycologists here and hope to follow in their footsteps later on in life.
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Re: mycelia water-colonization speed? [Re: ShadowTH]
#373676 - 08/17/01 11:42 AM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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Look at it this way...
Your gettin your education in mycology now and also paying your dues by having to hide em under your bed so by the time you do get your own place you can practice what you learned and maybe become a "mushroom guru/tycoon" if dats what you want. Im not sure what you mean by "follow in their footsteps" but if you referring to learning your shit and using this knowledge to helping others that are in your shoes now...
"By all means..."
Tell me something good then I might agree with you..
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"There is a wealth of information built into us, tucked away in the genetic material in every one of our cells. The psychedelic drugs allow exploration of this interior world, and insights into its nature."
Tell me something good then I might agree with you....the Smithereens
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ShadowTH
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Re: mycelia water-colonization speed? [Re: Billyblastoff]
#373687 - 08/17/01 11:57 AM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yup, definately. I'm not in it for money or anything, and I definately wouldn't make a good drug dealer.. Really not into any of that. Just constantly after new knowledge and enlightenment, both from the forums and from what this great fungus has to offer. Just reading all of the previous discussion here has changed my life, I can say that much.
-Mark
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L3D
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Re: mycelia water-colonization speed? [Re: ShadowTH]
#373698 - 08/17/01 12:34 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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happy to help. I find the free mcdonalds stuff to work much better than the organic stuff I got at the store.
L3D
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Re: mycelia water-colonization speed? [Re: zhukov]
#3633726 - 01/15/05 11:56 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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? Please, could you give me a link of a complete good guide to Liquid Medium Mycelium growth, with Honey and/or Malt extract and/or your choice??... Thanks!!
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 Re: mycelia water-colonization speed? [Re: ShadowTH]
#3633831 - 01/16/05 12:34 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
ShadowTH said:
Yup, definately. I'm not in it for money or anything, and I definately wouldn't make a good drug dealer.. Really not into any of that. Just constantly after new knowledge and enlightenment, both from the forums and from what this great fungus has to offer. Just reading all of the previous discussion here has changed my life, I can say that much.
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Re: mycelia water-colonization speed? [Re: Billyblastoff]
#3634738 - 01/16/05 11:23 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Billyblastoff said:
"Mommy go out to get ya some Happy Meals shadow?"
Arent moms great, hey why dont you ask mommy to inoculate da jars for you...
"Im just playing with ya, cool?"
That's some funny shit.
Roflmaoooo
Thanks for the laugh Billy!~
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Shdwstr
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Re: mycelia water-colonization speed? [Re: patzee]
#3635128 - 01/16/05 01:52 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
patzee said:
Re: honey water tek question-
<br>What's the ratio of honey to water?
<br>1tsp of honey:_____
<br>Just read CLUB99'S Honeywater mycelium Tek but
<br>no amount of water was indicated. Full Half pint?<br><br>My most worthy advisor
<br>www.thehawkseye.com
And for all concerned...
4% solutions. eg.
For Honey/Karo Liquid culture - 1tsp.(10g aaprox) Honey or Karo to 1 Cup(250ml) water
For Malt/Dextrose Liquid culture - 1tb.(10g) Dry Malt or Dextrose to 1 Cup(250ml) water
For Agar Solid Culture - 1 tb.(10g) Malt + 1tb.(10g) Agar to 2 Cups(500ml)
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GNIOM1498
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Re: mycelia water-colonization speed? [Re: Shdwstr]
#3636808 - 01/16/05 09:28 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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I read that 4 grams of honey per 100ml of H2O and i did that and did one jar with 10 grams per and it just gave me lots of extra mycelium hope that helps
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Shdwstr
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Re: mycelia water-colonization speed? [Re: GNIOM1498]
#3636885 - 01/16/05 09:47 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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The 4% is only a guideline.
Some have better luck with higher concentrations.
Just keep in mind that too much can be a problem.
Experiment 
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