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 Pruning 
#373153 - 08/16/01 03:53 PM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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Anybody else prune their little guys to reduce aborts and let the others grow big? Does it really work or am I being stupid? What techniques do you use?
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Re: Pruning [Re: rockfish]
#373165 - 08/16/01 04:10 PM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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prune? you mean pick off all the aborts, or what?
Pruning is for a plant, not mushrooms.
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Re: Pruning [Re: Shiznitz]
#373171 - 08/16/01 04:13 PM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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So you're saying it's a waste of time? It's recommended for maturing shrooms though, correct?
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#373173 - 08/16/01 04:19 PM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Pruning [Re: rockfish]
#373176 - 08/16/01 04:24 PM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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All you have to do to your cake/casing is pick off the mushrooms when their veils break, or when they are fully mature if you want a print. Pick off all the aborts as well.
I guess you can call this "pruning" but most people just say "picking"...
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Re: Pruning [Re: godflesh]
#373254 - 08/16/01 07:10 PM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok my last post (the one above this) was made WHILE godflesh wrote his, so I didn't read it...
Anyways, I don't seem to understand why you think I flamed him... I just asked him what he meant by pruning, and I guessed he meant picking off the aborts. I in no way intended to make him feel bad, and if I did, I'm sorry. I was just trying to figure out what he meant, that's all...
I don't think people on these boards have more of an "attitude" than they did years ago, I think that you've just gotten a bit more sensitive, godflesh.
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Re: Pruning *DELETED* [Re: Shiznitz]
#373303 - 08/16/01 08:18 PM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Pruning [Re: godflesh]
#373323 - 08/16/01 09:07 PM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah I guess it's true that a lot of people here don't like to give really simple questions an answer' instead, they reply with: go reas this or go look at that... I try to answer any questions, no matter how simple or stupid they are.
I agree that the shroomery must always support one another, and as long as we continue to do this, the shroomery will always be a place to get together and help each other out.
No hard feelings godflesh.
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Re: Pruning [Re: Shiznitz]
#373482 - 08/17/01 02:44 AM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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WTF? In actual fact pruning could be a correct term for chopping out unwanted parts of a plant - and mushrooms are plants , so lets all stop being such nasty know-it-alls to newbies... Anyway - yeah mate, its good to chop out those abhorts as they are eating nutrients that your other fruits would enjoy, and when they die, they attract contams.
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I've had my eye on this post to see where it goes, because I'm pretty sure I was ready to ask the question that rockfish did, except with a bit more clarity.. I may be totally wrong, but I think what he was trying to ask was, is it better to clip the shrooms, or just pick them off? I've heard of both being done, and they seem to both have their ups and downs.. with clipping you have to worry about stumps, but the mycelium isn't exposed to contams. On the other hand, if you pick them, there's no worry about anything rotting, but you have to worry about contams and should probably cover up the hole with casing mix. After reading a lot it's pretty obvious that the more logical choice is probably picking though, so new mushrooms can grow from where you picked, and there's no worry about rotting. Hope I'm not totally off..
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aenima
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actuall i don't think mushrooms are plants. They are a fungi.
Plants need light, photosynthesis gives em food , need water.
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Re: Pruning [Re: aenima]
#373544 - 08/17/01 06:04 AM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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yea, they are.. I was trying not to say anything and make this thread any worse..
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Re: Pruning [Re: ShadowTH]
#373549 - 08/17/01 06:11 AM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Pruning [Re: aenima]
#373555 - 08/17/01 06:25 AM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just give them a chop with a sterile knife as low as you can... no problems :
Plant: living organism with neither the power of movement nor special organs of digestion.
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Re: Pruning [Re: ShadowTH]
#373557 - 08/17/01 06:26 AM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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i am confused you saying they a fungi or plant, i thought fungi someone thinks plant. ANyoen clarify this for me?
Either way i don't see how correcting someone, and providing them with the correct information can make a thread worse, only better, if done in a mature way.
granted saying
" you dumb fuckign wank stain, mushrooms are fungi not plants dip shit fuckhead" would be out of order and make a thread worse, but just saying they are not a plant and are a fungi. No flame or disrespect there.
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Re: Pruning [Re: aenima]
#373558 - 08/17/01 06:28 AM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey, who told you about me being a wank stain??
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aenima
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my special pixie friend who i rely on for inspiration for posts told me to type, he jumps into my brain thru the left ear, tells my fingers to moveleft right up and down whilst over keys upon the keyboard, then exits the mulch which resides inside my head via my right ear. I then see his presence no more till the reply button has been clicked and the chance to post more informative nonsense arises.
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Re: Pruning [Re: aenima]
#373562 - 08/17/01 06:36 AM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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lol
Ok, well.. they're fungi. I would've thought it to be obvious, but I guess it confuses a lot of people.
And about the whole tension thing, I've noticed lately that people tend to snap at you when you get info wrong, or have a contradicting point, so not even having newbie status yet, I was just trying to keep on safe grounds =)
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aenima
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Re: Pruning [Re: aenima]
#373564 - 08/17/01 06:38 AM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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so a mushrooms meet the definition of a plant provided above. Mushrooms are a fungi.
SOOOOOO are fungi a type of plant. ? fungi plants closely related, liek cousins but yet different?
dammit i wanna know and will not rest till i know :)
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Re: Pruning [Re: ShadowTH]
#373566 - 08/17/01 06:40 AM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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if ppl snap at you again, just let me know and i;ll get my pixie friend to surf down the information superhighway fly through there moniter and sit on there nose untill they promise to be a abit more laid back and helpful. or untill they lose the use of there hands and can no longer post :)
deal?
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Re: Pruning [Re: aenima]
#373569 - 08/17/01 06:50 AM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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lol, deal.
Ok here's the thing..
"Plant: living organism with neither the power of movement nor special organs of digestion."
Mushrooms digest.. The mycelium takes over the dung/substrate/etc. whereas a plant just grows roots to pick up nutrients from what it's growing in. That's why after a while cakes have no use after a few flushes.. The 'shrooms digest all of the substrate. Pretty sure that's all correct.
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Re: Pruning [Re: aenima]
#373570 - 08/17/01 06:52 AM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Pruning [Re: ShadowTH]
#373572 - 08/17/01 06:53 AM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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ShadowTH
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Re: Pruning [Re: ]
#373573 - 08/17/01 06:56 AM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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lmao
sorry..
Damn, this's almost like a chatroom right now..
Interesting. (especially when you've got nothing to do and spent your whole night waiting for more posts to come in..)
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Re: Pruning [Re: ShadowTH]
#373576 - 08/17/01 07:06 AM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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well thanks to this thread i am no longer a newbie
plant, fungi who cares, i am a JOURNEYMAN :)
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Re: Pruning [Re: aenima]
#373581 - 08/17/01 07:18 AM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wow, kick ass.. congrats! =D
What exactly is the order of the ranks?
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aenima
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Re: Pruning [Re: ShadowTH]
#373585 - 08/17/01 07:36 AM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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stranger newbie journeyman, when i get to the next one i will tell ya :)
or you could just post lots and tell me :)
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Re: Pruning [Re: aenima]
#373598 - 08/17/01 08:33 AM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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Holy sheepsh...t! Ok.. I was just speaking colloquial english. Humble apologies. I figure you got plants & animals, 'shrooms aren't animals, so they're plants. Simple 'nuff? Don't get tech on me. I just want to grow 'em then grow me, ok?
What I was asking (and I prune, ie cut back, reduce, trim, by twisting them off, that seems to get everything but not take off a lot of the cake), what I was asking is how you select which ones to prune. I've noted that these huge clusters of pins never all mature anyway, so might as well space them out. Select the healthiest looking and nuke the rest. (For the literal minded, I don't actually use a nuclear device to prune, nuke is a colloquialism for get rid of or destroy.)
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Re: Pruning [Re: rockfish]
#373610 - 08/17/01 08:47 AM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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Some people seem to get a hair up their ass abot the slightest mistake.
Grammatically prune is a perfectly acceptable word - we all know what you mean.
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Re: Pruning [Re: rockfish]
#373615 - 08/17/01 09:07 AM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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If the pins are no longer growing - pick them.
The fewer fruits you have growing at one time, the larger they will get. It is a trade off between size and numbers.
To solve this problem - use a more nutrient rich substraight (rye or birdseed) and case them with a good casing material (coco fiber).
Hongus posted some pics the other day - check them out.
You suck but your mammas still sweet - support the FSR!
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Re: Pruning [Re: rockfish]
#373619 - 08/17/01 09:13 AM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ahh.. ok
Sorry for misunderstanding.
Once you see the pins that are going to become mature shrooms, there doesn't seem to be much reason to waste the cake's energy on pins that will just end up aborting. The thing is that you have to be able to spot the potential aborts, which is best learned with experience.. They'll be the ones that don't grow or stop growing while the others get taller, and will start to turn blue and then black. This's the sign that the cake has stopped paying attention to these ones, and if you pick them before they're too far gone and start molding, they can be eaten just like normal ones. In fact, in terms of weight they're a little more potent than the maturing shrooms from what I've read. So yeah, Clip 'em off and do what you want with 'em. =)
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Re: Pruning [Re: ShadowTH]
#373867 - 08/17/01 09:42 PM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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Spot on mate!
And i never said that mushrooms weren't fungi, i said that fungi are plants...
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i heard that abhorts arent more potent its just a rumor put out by pf to cover for there strains that have alot of abhorts
i can believe its not butter but why would you do that
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I dont prune abhorts.. theyre pretty enough for me not to cut them off of my cakes.. heh
btw... ya know, fungi arent plants.. 5 kingdoms.. one is plants, one animals, and another one is fungi.. if fungi are plants, then plants are slow moving cows
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Dunno, could be true. But I read recently (forgot who said it, sorry..) that most of the psilocybin is made at the start of the mushroom's growth, and from there I'd assume it just matures to drop spores. Seems logical because most suggest picking before the veil breaks, because any maturation after that is just for reproduction. Can anyone confirm/deny this? Thanks =)
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Re: Pruning [Re: Tamrylin]
#374264 - 08/18/01 08:05 PM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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Whew, ok.. I didn't really pay much attention in biology, but I was sure they were in their own class from what I listened to.. I've been paranoid that I've been losing parts of my mind lately..
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Re: Pruning [Re: ShadowTH]
#374292 - 08/18/01 09:47 PM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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yes that's true... aborts are more potent by weight, since most of the psilocybin/psilocin is made during the beggining...
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