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What's more "Potent"?
    #3729279 - 02/04/05 09:39 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Hi, I'ma newbie, I've heard a few different stories on drying shrooms and I was wondering what is more "potent," When you eat the shrooms fresh or when you dry the shrooms.

It would make more sense to me if you ate them fresh it would prob. be more "potent" or am i wrong on this one? What does drying them out do exactly and do they lose their potency? ANY HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED...THANK YOU!


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Re: What's more "Potent"? [Re: phatboy]
    #3729287 - 02/04/05 09:42 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I don't feel that you lose any potency through the drying process, and dried shrooms give you a more accurate dose then fresh in my opinion.

Technically, yes, you lose potency after drying them. Noticeable? I doubt it.


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Re: What's more "Potent"? [Re: phatboy]
    #3729293 - 02/04/05 09:45 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Dry mushrooms are no less potent than fresh, just easier to measure by means of weight. Say, you have 76 grams wet. This may or may not work out to 7 g.
we have seen it recently dry up to 4 g. Therefore, If you consume wet, you may or may not consume your desired dose.
Drying them out also keeps them from getting moldy.
Hope that helps, GL...


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Re: What's more "Potent"? [Re: SunshinePounder]
    #3729300 - 02/04/05 09:47 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

ok, yeah that helps, thanks guys! I just wasn't sure b.c. I've heard of people eating them fresh and i've only ever tried them dried out. Also, I've heard people say that eating them fresh isn't as potent, which really wouldn't make any sense to me, lol.


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Re: What's more "Potent"? [Re: phatboy]
    #3729302 - 02/04/05 09:48 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

IMHO fresh is best , no differnt than eating a cake ... what taste best ? A nice warm cake fresh from the oven or one that has sat around for a few days.
I also feel that it hits you a little sooner and there is more of the yumminess in them , may not be alot , but none the less more . Also some folks who can't stand the taste of them dried tend to not mind the flavor fresh due to the moisture in them makes it easier to chew and get down .


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Re: What's more "Potent"? [Re: tripndicular]
    #3729319 - 02/04/05 09:53 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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tripndicular said:
IMHO fresh is best , no differnt than eating a cake ... what taste best ? A nice warm cake fresh from the oven or one that has sat around for a few days.
I also feel that it hits you a little sooner and there is more of the yumminess in them , may not be alot , but none the less more . Also some folks who can't stand the taste of them dried tend to not mind the flavor fresh due to the moisture in them makes it easier to chew and get down .




This makes sense to me, so how much would you have to eat fresh to feel the effects of say, 3.5g of dried shroomies?


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Re: What's more "Potent"? [Re: tripndicular]
    #3729333 - 02/04/05 09:59 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

can't disagree with that. They don't taste too bad fresh, but taste like shit dried, lol.

There is a dose calculator in the mushroom information section at the main site.

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Re: What's more "Potent"? [Re: phatboy]
    #3729338 - 02/04/05 10:01 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

That is kinda tough to answer acurately . Each person and how it hits them is different , no different than medications . But my best guess would be to eat at least 1 oz of freshies up to 1.5 oz . But body weight , frame of mind , what you ate prior can all affect how a particular dosage hits you IMHO .
Now for a real ass kicker go for 2.5 oz of fresh , a friend and I did this many many moons ago at a concert and I tell you what we were warped ,security had to chase us off ,we were so blasted we sat in our seats after the show and forgot all about being in a public place and having to leave ...LOL Oh to be young and dumb again  :wink:

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Re: What's more "Potent"? [Re: tripndicular]
    #3729391 - 02/04/05 10:24 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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That is kinda tough to answer acurately . Each person and how it hits them is different , no different than medications . But my best guess would be to eat at least 1 oz of freshies up to 1.5 oz . But body weight , frame of mind , what you ate prior can all affect how a particular dosage hits you IMHO .
Now for a real ass kicker go for 2.5 oz of fresh , a friend and I did this many many moons ago at a concert and I tell you what we were warped ,security had to chase us off ,we were so blasted we sat in our seats after the show and forgot all about being in a public place and having to leave ...LOL Oh to be young and dumb again  :wink:

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Re: What's more "Potent"? [Re: phatboy]
    #3729437 - 02/04/05 10:42 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

according to the dosage calculator a fresh mushroom is 90% water so to find out the wieght of a wet trip from a dry dosage just multiply by 10. i have also heard a few different times here on the shroomery that people think its closer to 92% so this would make you multiply your dry dosage by 12.5 to find a wet one.

examples:

if mushrooms are 90% water;
3.5g dry * 10 = 35g or 1.25oz wet

if mushrooms are 92% water;
3.5g dry * 12.5 = 43.75g or 1.5625oz wet

hope this helps and is somewhat accurate.


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Re: What's more "Potent"? [Re: SunshinePounder]
    #3729441 - 02/04/05 10:44 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

i think that they taste like ass no matter what. I mean, when you get a good handful of those things in your mouth, wet or dry, there's just that... that taste... i know you all know what i'm talking about.

Aside from being easier to dose when dry, you can also grind up dry shrooms. That's my favorite mode of ingestion. Empty out a supplement cap (or buy empty ones if you're industrious), fill it up, swallow... no taste good or bad and it hits you in ten minutes. I've noticed that I'm less likely to feel sick this way too...


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Re: What's more "Potent"? [Re: gsmith]
    #3729506 - 02/04/05 11:05 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Personally I like them either way ... maybe it is an acquired taste like caviar  :wink: Now that shit taste like ass... fucking fish eggs ekkkkkk !


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Re: What's more "Potent"? [Re: tripndicular]
    #6127417 - 10/03/06 07:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

dont get me wrong but some people really really complain about their mushrooms losing potency when dying them In a certain way, there is ways that can damage the psilocin by high levels of heat, i suggest reading further more into the mushroom drying process.


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Re: What's more "Potent"? [Re: merge_oners]
    #6127437 - 10/03/06 07:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

As long as your mushroom has even 1 molecule of psilocin, you will lose potency during drying.

Psilocybin suffers only negligible losses during proper drying procedure.

How much potency you lose depends on how much psilocin your mushrooms contain.

(as far as I understand)


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Re: What's more "Potent"? [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #6127465 - 10/03/06 08:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

A dehydrator is the way to go but I have found that you can do small amounts just by lying them on a paper towel and butting somewhere warm,Be resourceful,I once put a single layer under the cable box and they were perfect the next day


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