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Offlinegrnsmoke
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what danger are contams?
    #372738 - 08/16/01 01:48 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

hi, i was wondering if i could have a few questions answered by the more experienced...all this talk of contams, what exactly will a contam threaten if the cakes are already in the growth chamber pinning? What do you have to be worried about occuring?

second question. I have been moving my cakes around, and where i touched them they developed what i thought to be a greenish mold, but it hasnt grown, and it actually looks kinda blue now...what is this all about? what WILL IT HURT?

finally, is a 60 watt flourecent light above the chamber (plexiglass lid) too much light? How much should i be using?

thanks for all reponses, greatly appreciated!!!




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Re: what danger are contams? [Re: grnsmoke]
    #372751 - 08/16/01 02:36 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

trichoderma, the common green mold we see all too often, is not harmful. it actually has many uses in agriculture to prevent harmful fungal infections in crops.

do a search for 'trichoderma' on google.



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Re: what danger are contams? [Re: BBShrizz]
    #372755 - 08/16/01 02:46 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

However, Tricho. can send a message to your substrate that there is a new sheriff in town and will stop growth...

Not to mention the other molds and even unseen bacteria that might be harmful and will actually enter the shroom tissue and could do nothing, give you the shits, or cause death..not something Monty Hall would touch with a 10 foot pole...

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Re: what danger are contams? [Re: grnsmoke]
    #372907 - 08/16/01 10:32 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

There are some molds that can develop in your jars that can kill you, but they happen to be rare. In most cases, it's just some regular nasty mold.

When you touch mycelium, it will stain blue for a while. This is just bruising, and should not occur if you handle the cakes really gently. Don't touch them unless you have to, and when you do, handle with care.

A 60 watt floro. is more than enough light for your mushrooms.
The mushrooms only need light to point them in the right direction to grow. The mushrooms could pin with as little as 10 minutes of light a day, but to be on the safe side, give them 3 hours a day.

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Re: what danger are contams? [Re: Shiznitz]
    #373040 - 08/16/01 02:12 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Your cakes are probably just bruised. After a nice run of contams, I don't touch my substrate with my bare hands anymore. I know lots of people do, but I don't. I put on a pair of gloves. Clean them off with a dissinfectant and then handle what ever I need to do.This is one small change that I made, and I haven't had anymore problems with contams.
Most foreing molds are harmless, but some are deadly. Unless you can identify the fungus as harmless, I would stay away. Stay away from all black molds.They tend to be nasty.
The green molds tend to be harmless to us.But they too can cause allergic reactions. I ate some B+ once that came from an infected casing and I itched all over for a while. Needless to say thank god I too a very small dose to test it out.



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Re: what danger are contams? [Re: grnsmoke]
    #373053 - 08/16/01 02:42 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

As others have mentioned, many contaminants are nothing to worry about. However, mushroom/mycelium growth can get stunted or stop altogether in many cases. There's a hyperparanoia that exists among lots of growers that you'll die from contaminants, but that's really a very, very, very rare thing. In most cases, all you have to do is cut out the contamination, spray your cakes or casing with water and peroxide, and you'll be fine.

The blueing on the spots where you touched them sounds like bruising. Cakes (and mushrooms too) will usually turn blue where you touch them. However, if you saw green, there's a chance you have penicillium (the bluish green mold you see on bread, vegetables and other food items) in there. Just to be safe, you may want to cut out the greenish blue spots anyway, then spray them with a solution of 5 parts water and 1 part peroxide.



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Re: what danger are contams? [Re: grnsmoke]
    #373114 - 08/16/01 04:41 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Good question, surprised this isnt asked more often.
Ive learned something new today. Actually if this thread was here yesterday early afternoon it woulda saved me some time that I will now lose because I recased a few trays yesterday cause i couldnt get rid of the cursed "trich", was at first gonna let it grow out but then decided I didnt want to take the chance since these were my last 3 casings. Shit... goes to show you to "ask before you act when in doubt". Thanx for the responses shroomers, keep up the good work...


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Re: what danger are contams? [Re: grnsmoke]
    #373123 - 08/16/01 04:56 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

the blue is almost undoubtably just some bruising on the cakes from movng them.... translation:" be more careful moving them next time

the reason infections are bad is because it will do one or more of the following: slow growth, stop growth, make yields smaller, spread to other cultures/cakes, make you sick, or make you DIE. As with hunting.... when in doubt chuck the mother fucker out!

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