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Stone Circles, crop cicles, pendant circles the circle of life
#3725124  02/03/05 05:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) 


Circles circles circles!! What does it mean.. what goes around comes around? Or maybe that whereever you are on the path, you will end back in the same place regardless?... Is there such a thing as a 'line' in math terms? A line as in, a never ending, never repeating experience object or concept.. or are all things repeating, a cycle? What is it about circles that are so powerful, and yet no human can freehand a circle.. Stone circles very interesting read.. All over England and of course the most famous stone circle, Stonehenge.. I think circles have a lot of power, and implications on spirituality.. How can circles benefit you? Can power be imbued into any object? can feelings leave imprints on the future? Can the magic of a stone ring really have any real world application to a spiritual or mystic ritual..

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Re: Stone Circles, crop cicles, pendant circles the circle of life [Re: Aqua]
#3725268  02/03/05 05:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) 


no human can freehand a line either

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Re: Stone Circles, crop cicles, pendant circles the circle of life [Re: Aqua]
#3725326  02/03/05 05:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) 


crop cicles
and pop cicles  yumm!

The proof is in the pudding.

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Re: Stone Circles, crop cicles, pendant circles the circle of life [Re: Aqua]
#3725424  02/03/05 06:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) 


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Aqua said: Is there such a thing as a 'line' in math terms? A line as in, a never ending, never repeating experience object or concept..
Would you be able to grasp the concept/theory of a line if you put it in the mathematical terms of a circle....?
OK....
What would a circle be if it had an infinite radius....? A "straight" curve that never ended and never repeated  theoretically, and with a "linear" perception....
It is just easier to give it a name, that just incidentally starts with the sound of the word: "lie"....
 I'll be your midnight French Fry....
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Re: Stone Circles, crop cicles, pendant circles the circle of life [Re: Aqua]
#3725915  02/03/05 07:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) 


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Aqua said: what goes around comes around?
That is so fking weird. I just read the same sentance 3 seconds ago. i click on this thread, there it is again

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Re: Stone Circles, crop cicles, pendant circles the circle of life [Re: PhanTomCat]
#3725938  02/03/05 07:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) 


What would a circle be if it had an infinite radius....?
Ummm, a really big one? Did I win a prize?

The proof is in the pudding.

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Re: Stone Circles, crop cicles, pendant circles the circle of life [Re: Swami]
#3725996  02/03/05 07:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) 


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Swami said: What would a circle be if it had an infinite radius....?
Ummm, a really big one? Did I win a prize?
Why, Yessssssss you do swami....! You get a one year's supply of Rice A Roni the San Fransisco treat...! But that's not all.....
You also get.... A BRAND NEW CAR....!

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Re: Stone Circles, crop cicles, pendant circles the circle of life [Re: PhanTomCat]
#3726055  02/03/05 08:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) 


OK, "The Price is Right" was a stoopid show to quote.... You don't get the car, but you can have a box of Rice A Roni if.....
_{Fine Print:} You must donate it to the Christian Children's Fund....

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Re: Stone Circles, crop cicles, pendant circles the circle of life [Re: PhanTomCat]
#3726903  02/03/05 10:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) 


I lay awake in bed some nights just pondering geometry and physics (is that a weird thing to think about at the end of the day?)
I think about how the laws of mechanical motion (Newtonian Physics) operate on a 'grid' so to speak, in that perpendicular forces (generally speaking) do not effect each other. So the universe is mapped out of a grid, but why then are curves so abundant in nature? I have this idea, which is probably just a silly daydream, but:
You know everything in the universe pulsates, on some relative scale. Everything can be thought of in terms of waveforms. And what is a waveform? The simplest depiction of a wave form is a perfect sine wave, right? A sine wave is really just a circle with it's bottom half displaced.
So in this 'endofthedaydream' of mine, a circle represents wholeness, eternity/infinity, perfection, and the displaced cirlce (or the 'wave') represents the existance that we live in which is metamorphic and everchanging.
Also, circles are irrational to us (in the mathmatical sense pi is an irrational number. Circles are not easily explained geometrically), but a wavelength interval is rational to us (it can be discussed in terms of relative distance).
actually, it's hard to explain what esle I had in mind, but that's some of it anyways...
Edited by soulmotion (02/03/05 10:45 PM)

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Re: Stone Circles, crop cicles, pendant circles the circle of life [Re: soulmotion]
#3726952  02/03/05 10:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) 


phi is an irrational number.
you mean pi right?

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Re: Stone Circles, crop cicles, pendant circles the circle of life [Re: soulmotion]
#3727011  02/03/05 10:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) 


I lay awake in bed some nights just pondering geometry and physics (is that a weird thing to think about at the end of the day?)
That depends. Are there naked women holding up circles and triangles and such?

The proof is in the pudding.

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Re: Stone Circles, crop cicles, pendant circles the circle of life [Re: Zekebomb]
#3727150  02/03/05 10:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) 


yeah, thanks zeke ...
I meant 'pi' not 'phi'.

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Re: Stone Circles, crop cicles, pendant circles the circle of life [Re: Swami]
#3727186  02/03/05 10:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) 


You're right swami, geometry (circles in perticular) are cause for deep reflection.

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Re: Stone Circles, crop cicles, pendant circles the circle of life [Re: soulmotion]
#3727208  02/03/05 10:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) 


is pi irrational just because it goes on forever?

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Re: Stone Circles, crop cicles, pendant circles the circle of life [Re: soulmotion]
#3727410  02/03/05 11:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) 


Pi = Phi.... Same meaning.... Poetateoh = Poetotoh...
A sine wave is not just simple displaced half circles (those are ogee curves).... They more have to do with the math or triangular functions....
(left) The sine of an angle; (right) constructing a sine wave. The sine of an angle is a function used in the mathematical study of the triangle. If the sine of angle "B" is known, then the hypotenuse can be found given the length of the opposite side, or the opposite side can be found from the hypotenuse. Within a circle of unit radius (left), the height P1A1 equals the sine of angle P1OA1. This fact and the equalities below the circle allow a sine curve to be drawn.
And you really need about 540 degrees of a sine wave plot to get the full boobage effect....
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Re: Stone Circles, crop cicles, pendant circles the circle of life [Re: PhanTomCat]
#3728155  02/04/05 01:23 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) 


Pi = Phi
that is incorrect sir.
the symbol for pi is a horizontal line connected to two vertical lines below it. the symbol for phi is a circle with a vertical line through it.
pi = ~ 3.1415926 phi = ~ 1.618

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Re: Stone Circles, crop cicles, pendant circles the circle of life [Re: Zekebomb]
#3728583  02/04/05 02:53 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) 


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Zekebomb said: is pi irrational just because it goes on forever?
Yeah, pi is an irrational number because it continues forever, but has no identifiable pattern. The theory I posted earlier in this thread is just some ideas stitched together and are not ment to be taken too seriously; Just food for thought. I'm taking physics classes right now in hopes that eventually I will be able to validate some of my ideas, or perhaps derive new ideas to explain this crazy world around me. There is a good chance I won't be able to explain it any better than Stephen Hawking though.

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Re: Stone Circles, crop cicles, pendant circles the circle of life [Re: Aqua]
#3730789  02/04/05 04:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) 


Very interesting everyone thanks for the replies!
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no human can freehand a line either
What! of course they can. ______
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A "straight" curve that never ended and never repeated  theoretically, and with a "linear" perception
How is that even possible?.. I can imagine it though, and I see what you are saying, possibly or not. When I think of a circle, I think of something humans can comprehend as round. Whether the marble or planet earth with it's seemingly flat surface areas, can be seen as a circle. I think the fact earth itself is a sphere says a lot.. Can anyone comment on if the earth is indeed a pretty close to perfect sphere? Is the moon a perfect circle?
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Ummm, a really big one? Did I win a prize?
A circle with a neverending line is not possible! So it would probably be a very small one, subatomic unmeasurable. The prize? The sarcasm post a lot award
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So in this 'endofthedaydream' of mine, a circle represents wholeness, eternity/infinity, perfection, and the displaced cirlce (or the 'wave') represents the existence that we live in which is metamorphic and everchanging.
Well said... so where does that leave us as humans?
As I see it, circles are a part of life no matter where you look at it, from every aspect and angle, from all perceivable concepts . Circles perhaps hold lingering energy, the kind that will become what it was, and back again: what you put in your get out. The circle of life is much like this for humans if not animals( for lack of comprehension) As far as imagining the energy of 'waves' that is harder to understand, the infinite nothingness, the never ending 'circle' if it is such a possibility, that is another matter. Perhaps it is just beyond humans to understand such things as the circle of all that is, and the infinate everything.. Of course it is As much as we call ourselves god we are so off!

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Re: Stone Circles, crop cicles, pendant circles the circle of life [Re: Aqua]
#3731037  02/04/05 04:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) 


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Can anyone comment on if the earth is indeed a pretty close to perfect sphere?
no the earth isn't a perfect sphere; more of an ellipsoid. it's roughly 40 kms "wider" than it is tall (N pole to S pole). As for the moon, I have no idea.


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Re: Stone Circles, crop cicles, pendant circles the circle of life [Re: soulmotion]
#3731256  02/04/05 05:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) 


at least you can probably walk better than the honourable Mr Hawking

